Are we being forced to go electric?

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icowden

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Yes, they’re bringing in a law without a clue how it can be actually implemented, they’re not the first and not the last to consider the charging aspect of it all
If only there were supplies of electricity about. I'm sure someone must have electrified at least some of the country.

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Yes, apparently Electricity is almost universally available in the UK.
 

FishFright

More wheels than sense
Yes, they’re bringing in a law without a clue how it can be actually implemented, they’re not the first and not the last to consider the charging aspect of it all

Looks like we have another thread troll.
 

lazybloke

Priest of the cult of Chris Rea
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Leafy Surrey
As gas becomes scarce, Caravans will be retrofitted with a large battery and inverter to give high current mains voltage for cooking, heating etc.
The battery can then be recharged at a slower rate from the site supply. Might take careful planning!

Sites without power will have to put in an expensive call to UK Power Networks, or reconsider their business plan.

Heavy fuel oil applications like shipping are more problematic. I know some people think Elon walks on water, but he hasn't managed mid-ocean chargers yet.
 

DRM

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West Yorks
Looks like we have another thread troll.

You’re just not thinking this through, because you haven’t got a clue about the amount of power that will need to be run into a building site just to power battery chargers, the larger the battery the more input power is required to run the thing, multiply that by all the plant that is on site and it just becomes a ridiculous notion that it can work, so you now resort to insults because you have no idea in exactly what is required to run such a set up
 

MrGrumpy

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Fly Fifer
As gas becomes scarce, Caravans will be retrofitted with a large battery and inverter to give high current mains voltage for cooking, heating etc.
The battery can then be recharged at a slower rate from the site supply. Might take careful planning!

Sites without power will have to put in an expensive call to UK Power Networks, or reconsider their business plan.

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wishful thinking ! I’m out of the caravan game now ! I foresee problems and vans becoming expensive

In fact the more I think about my experience of caravans,manufacturers and dealers is that they are decades behind the car industry ! So I expect little change in the near and distant future .
 
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FishFright

More wheels than sense
You’re just not thinking this through, because you haven’t got a clue about the amount of power that will need to be run into a building site just to power battery chargers, the larger the battery the more input power is required to run the thing, multiply that by all the plant that is on site and it just becomes a ridiculous notion that it can work, so you now resort to insults because you have no idea in exactly what is required to run such a set up

Electricity is not some mysterious substance that only a prevailed few understand.
And if you think a construction site is a high energy system then you are even more daft than I thought .

Stop and think before you post.
 

Alex321

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South Wales
As gas becomes scarce, Caravans will be retrofitted with a large battery and inverter to give high current mains voltage for cooking, heating etc.
The battery can then be recharged at a slower rate from the site supply. Might take careful planning!

Sites without power will have to put in an expensive call to UK Power Networks, or reconsider their business plan.

Heavy fuel oil applications like shipping are more problematic. I know some people think Elon walks on water, but he hasn't managed mid-ocean chargers yet.

There are MANY people who use caravans or motorhomes/campervans without using commercial sites. We don't even have a hook up in out campervan, though we have the fittings if we wanted to fit one.

But the largest part of our usage is for the Sealed Knot, where we are set up for a weekend in a field with no facilities beyond water points and portaloos.

While the SK is only a very tiny portion of the caravan/campervan community, there are many other organisations which run events where the camping will be similar.

And caravans will not be retrofitted with a large battery and inverter, because that would take almost all of them over their MGW.
 
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DRM

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West Yorks
As gas becomes scarce, Caravans will be retrofitted with a large battery and inverter to give high current mains voltage for cooking, heating etc.
The battery can then be recharged at a slower rate from the site supply. Might take careful planning!

Sites without power will have to put in an expensive call to UK Power Networks, or reconsider their business plan.

Heavy fuel oil applications like shipping are more problematic. I know some people think Elon walks on water, but he hasn't managed mid-ocean chargers yet.

Won’t work as the caravan will then become to heavy to tow round, even with a Land Rover Defender type of 4x4, also you’re suggesting that both of the caravan/camping clubs will remodel their business plans, or arrangements for rally’s, caravans do not use mains for cooking, lpg hob, gas or mains for the water/space heater, the fridge works on 12 volts when being towed lpg/mains on site, no need for inverters or the like, lights run on the 12v leisure battery on board, which can be recharged with solar, as we used to do
 

DRM

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West Yorks
Electricity is not some mysterious substance that only a prevailed few understand.
And if you think a construction site is a high energy system then you are even more daft than I thought .

Stop and think before you post.
No but that is exactly what they will become, by having a large charging area for plant alone, it will increase their power requirements hugely, plus it will have to be under cover as these things don’t like getting wet
 

DRM

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West Yorks
If only there were supplies of electricity about. I'm sure someone must have electrified at least some of the country.

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Yes, apparently Electricity is almost universally available in the UK.

So go on then putting in a high power 3 phase supply before any ground breaking goes on, how much will that cost then clever dick, along with a covered ventilated charging bay.
 

FishFright

More wheels than sense
No but that is exactly what they will become, by having a large charging area for plant alone, it will increase their power requirements hugely, plus it will have to be under cover as these things don’t like getting wet

You're just trolling now.
 

Jameshow

Veteran
So go on then putting in a high power 3 phase supply before any ground breaking goes on, how much will that cost then clever dick, along with a covered ventilated charging bay.

Don't worry the ev plant will be charged by Genny's clean or what!🤣🤣🤣
 
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icowden

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Surrey
So go on then putting in a high power 3 phase supply before any ground breaking goes on, how much will that cost then clever dick, along with a covered ventilated charging bay.
Why do you need covered ventilated charging? Electricity doesn't make any fumes!
Remember those recycled EV batteries I referred to? You pitch up with several of those in a van as your generator truck while you get the mains supply put in (having previously agreed that with the council so they are ready to go).
 
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