Yes. That's why forward thinking countries offer incentives for people to go EV.
Are we being forced to go electric?
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vickster
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Is it 18k?
fossyant
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Most people don't buy new cars now, they lease/PCP it for a set fee a month. All depends on whether you can justify £400 per month (and more) for the use you get - if you've got a lengthy commute, poor public transport, etc etc.
fossyant
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Only £51k and the back isn't estate shaped !
Jameshow
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I doubt the forecourts will rapidly become less common as most will convert to electrics and will probably retain a pump or two for legacy ice.
FishFright
More wheels than sense
It's very easy to measure battery capacity.
Plenty of can't afford a car now , how much are you chipping in to their budget ?
Try a little harder .
No doubt production of ICE cars will be scaled back long before then and as such supply and demand economics will possibly see a sharp rise in their prices.
Alex321
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I think only a fairly small proportion will convert to electrics, because people will be recharging either at home, at their destination, or somewhere with proper facilities to stop for a 15 minute+ coffee/wee break/leg stretch, which most forecourts really don't have.
And many filling stations are struggling now, and need the attached shop to make a profit. Which is only going to be exacerbated as volumes of fuel sold fall.
Some will undoubtedly turn themselves into coffee shops/restaurants with attached charging points, but an awful lot will go out of business. I really don't think the model going forward will be places which are mainly dedicated to charging vehicles.
Musk just dropped it to 44K and it's a family car capable of transporting people and luggage. That's what an Estate Car was designed for. It' just properly aerodynamic unlike an Estate. That's why very few models have an Estate version now.
You asked for an estate version of the Tesla small hatch EV that could take two bikes in the back. I showed you one. It's bigger. It costs more.
youngoldbloke
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Big difference between 18K and 44K!
youngoldbloke
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- I thought that was what family cars - most cars even - were designed to do. An estate should capable of carrying something more in addition - a couch and a couple of chairs perhaps? Other than a Morris Minor I've always driven estates - Renault 18, Peugeot 405, Ford Focus, and finally Peugeot 5008 (old shape). As fashions changed and fastbacks became sexy, estates have become smaller and smaller and less and less useful - hence the Peugeot 5008
The Tesla Y is NOT an estate car.
It is if you go by the definition of an estate car which is a vehicle that can prioritise passenger capacity or luggage space. The Y has a lot of space.
Your Ford Focus Wagon has 575 litres of space expanding to 1620 litres of space
Tesla Y has 854 litres of space expanding to 2158litres if you include the frunk (about 1900 if you exclude the frunk).
) are a British peculiarity, very rare in any other country.One EV advertised claimed that the battery life was about seven years on a 'depreciating level' implying a gradually shorter & shorter range.
On the basis that any decent ICE engine will last around 100k. miles / 10 years plus driving, that's not very reassuring when the battery pack may have to be replaced at whatever price in about 70k. miles of driving.
Would you be happy to need an ICE replaced after that short time - ?
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