Are we being forced to go electric?

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Fastpedaller

Über Member
They're not much heavier than equivalent sized car

Tesla Model S 1950kg
BMW 750 2000kg

Tesla Model 3 LR 1730kg
BMW 335 1600kg

It's a common myth EVs weigh substantially more, which isn't the case. Yes a little bit, but no more the a large adult occupant

Nor is the tyre wear(another widely used anti EV myth)- I attribute this to the smoother power delivery of an EV .

Maybe they aren't much heavier than the monsters on the roads these days - I remember when the average family car was 1 tonne.
Will the EV's evolve to being made as light as possible in order to eke out the battery power?
 

tyred

Legendary Member
Location
Ireland
They're not much heavier than equivalent sized car

Tesla Model S 1950kg
BMW 750 2000kg

Tesla Model 3 LR 1730kg
BMW 335 1600kg

It's a common myth EVs weigh substantially more, which isn't the case. Yes a little bit, but no more the a large adult occupant

Nor is the tyre wear(another widely used anti EV myth)- I attribute this to the smoother power delivery of an EV .

But are you weighing the EVs with a full tank of electricity? :whistle:
 

Jameshow

Veteran
They're not much heavier than equivalent sized car

Tesla Model S 1950kg
BMW 750 2000kg

Tesla Model 3 LR 1730kg
BMW 335 1600kg

It's a common myth EVs weigh substantially more, which isn't the case. Yes a little bit, but no more the a large adult occupant

Nor is the tyre wear(another widely used anti EV myth)- I attribute this to the smoother power delivery of an EV .

You should run a xc90 for tyre wear!!
 

CXRAndy

Guru
Location
Lincs
You should run a xc90 for tyre wear!!

I did own an XC90 T5 sold it with hardly any miles, because I realised hybrids were a con. I bought my Model S. Ever since we have transitioned away for all commuting by EVs. Wife's got one, son's got one. Elder daughter is getting one. We have a little petrol car locked up to teach younger daughter in a manual very soon- when she passed her test it will be sold on and we will look at another EV
 

Jameshow

Veteran
I did own an XC90 T5 sold it with hardly any miles, because I realised hybrids were a con. I bought my Model S. Ever since we have transitioned away for all commuting by EVs. Wife's got one, son's got one. Elder daughter is getting one. We have a little petrol car locked up to teach younger daughter in a manual very soon- when she passed her test it will be sold on and we will look at another EV

T8 surely.
 

MrGrumpy

Huge Member
Location
Fly Fifer
I'm interested in what you drive at the present ?

We drive a Merc E Class Cabriolet and a Disco. Bought for different reasons , however I’m serious when I say the EQC we had on loan , whilst very nice and well equipped , I didn’t feel anymore special driving that than our own cars :okay: . In fact the big Disco has to be one of the comfiest vehicles to sit in !

I’ll be priced off the road at some point ! then , I’ll need to choose something else . For the moment I keep my chin up watching Bangers and Cash :laugh: and Look for my next car on there !!
 

fossyant

Ride It Like You Stole It!
Location
South Manchester
EV's are still out of most folks budget.

EV's seem to be the 'next big thing' (willy wavers) for the folk that bought stupid fast normal cars previously (BIL is in Car insurance and he say's it's the same 'folk' that can spend on cars that have moved to stupid fast leccy cars). It's fine if you have (or want) to spend that money on a car - like we all do on stuff.

I commute on my bike again (previous life changing injuries because of it, but hey ho, keep going and I love cycling). An EV possibly might benefit my wife for work, but given her car has covered less than 4k miles a year, the cost differential is insane.

A lease for a EV or a new car is over £400 per month, some of us would rather use two months of payments, to keep an old car going for over a year - that's better for the environment.

I have had a big battle with various demons to get back on the bike to commute to work on a bike. I was very badly injured on a bike commute - life changing, but I kept going, with help from family and some really good mates from here - I am not as quick as I was, but I'm not needing an e-bike or e-car.

MrsF still goes on about my car being old, it doesn't look 22, it can haul 4 big trail MTB's at 100 MPH on the roof if asked (doesn't as I am not burning that amount of fuel) but if it breaks big time, I think I won't bother with a replacement. My car did 3000 miles in the last year.

There will also be no e-bikes in this house ! Unless MrsF's leg falls off.

I also don't have £30k to spend on a shoot and small EV.
 

cyberknight

As long as I breathe, I attack.
EV's are still out of most folks budget.

EV's seem to be the 'next big thing' (willy wavers) for the folk that bought stupid fast normal cars previously (BIL is in Car insurance and he say's it's the same 'folk' that can spend on cars that have moved to stupid fast leccy cars). It's fine if you have (or want) to spend that money on a car - like we all do on stuff.

I commute on my bike again (previous life changing injuries because of it, but hey ho, keep going and I love cycling). An EV possibly might benefit my wife for work, but given her car has covered less than 4k miles a year, the cost differential is insane.

A lease for a EV or a new car is over £400 per month, some of us would rather use two months of payments, to keep an old car going for over a year - that's better for the environment.

I have had a big battle with various demons to get back on the bike to commute to work on a bike. I was very badly injured on a bike commute - life changing, but I kept going, with help from family and some really good mates from here - I am not as quick as I was, but I'm not needing an e-bike or e-car.

MrsF still goes on about my car being old, it doesn't look 22, it can haul 4 big trail MTB's at 100 MPH on the roof if asked (doesn't as I am not burning that amount of fuel) but if it breaks big time, I think I won't bother with a replacement. My car did 3000 miles in the last year.

There will also be no e-bikes in this house ! Unless MrsF's leg falls off.

I also don't have £30k to spend on a shoot and small EV.

similar situation to me , cycle commute whilst i am still able to continue doing so and although our car is "only" 9 years old we have no intention or the means to replace it currently .In fact if it wasnt for the disabilty and carers allowance we currently receive im not sure how we would be coping financially given the cost of living crisis .
 

FishFright

More wheels than sense
We drive a Merc E Class Cabriolet and a Disco. Bought for different reasons , however I’m serious when I say the EQC we had on loan , whilst very nice and well equipped , I didn’t feel anymore special driving that than our own cars :okay: . In fact the big Disco has to be one of the comfiest vehicles to sit in !

I’ll be priced off the road at some point ! then , I’ll need to choose something else . For the moment I keep my chin up watching Bangers and Cash :laugh: and Look for my next car on there !!

Not a fan of the Discovery but I've always liked a Merc cabriolet , especially with a big easy engine.
 
EV's are still out of most folks budget.

EV's seem to be the 'next big thing' (willy wavers) for the folk that bought stupid fast normal cars previously (BIL is in Car insurance and he say's it's the same 'folk' that can spend on cars that have moved to stupid fast leccy cars). It's fine if you have (or want) to spend that money on a car - like we all do on stuff.

I commute on my bike again (previous life changing injuries because of it, but hey ho, keep going and I love cycling). An EV possibly might benefit my wife for work, but given her car has covered less than 4k miles a year, the cost differential is insane.

A lease for a EV or a new car is over £400 per month, some of us would rather use two months of payments, to keep an old car going for over a year - that's better for the environment.

I have had a big battle with various demons to get back on the bike to commute to work on a bike. I was very badly injured on a bike commute - life changing, but I kept going, with help from family and some really good mates from here - I am not as quick as I was, but I'm not needing an e-bike or e-car.

MrsF still goes on about my car being old, it doesn't look 22, it can haul 4 big trail MTB's at 100 MPH on the roof if asked (doesn't as I am not burning that amount of fuel) but if it breaks big time, I think I won't bother with a replacement. My car did 3000 miles in the last year.

There will also be no e-bikes in this house ! Unless MrsF's leg falls off.

I also don't have £30k to spend on a shoot and small EV.

Interesting you decry EVs as cars for Willy Wavers whilst telling us about your 100mph car. Hmmm.
 
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