Are we being forced to go electric?

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Jameshow

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I would imagine almost everybody who buys an EV are doing so mainly because it is an EV. The cost of living crisis may make people less likely to swap their car at all, but will have no impact on the reason why those who buy an EV do so.

What I meant was that people are buying an ev because they need or want a new car, not oh carp my fossil fuel car isn't ev I must swap it for an ev!

£50000 of ev will pay for alot of Dino juice!
 
What I meant was that people are buying an ev because they need or want a new car, not oh carp my fossil fuel car isn't ev I must swap it for an ev!

£50000 of ev will pay for alot of Dino juice!

My ev was about 1/3 of that and saves over £100 a month on petrol costs at least.
 

Alex321

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What I meant was that people are buying an ev because they need or want a new car, not oh carp my fossil fuel car isn't ev I must swap it for an ev!
That I would agree with.

£50000 of ev will pay for alot of Dino juice!

It will, but there are a good number of EV's around now for around half that new.

The price IS coming down, and fairly quickly.
 
My sense is that nearly everyone is aware that EV is the future and the need to protect the environment. The current challenge is the price and charging infrastructure. So no need to repeat the climate mantra.

Slightly more than 3 years ago Tesla said they expect to see prices for EV halved in 3 years time and it did not take place. In fact it increased.
 

CXRAndy

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My sense is that nearly everyone is aware that EV is the future and the need to protect the environment. The current challenge is the price and charging infrastructure. So no need to repeat the climate mantra.

Slightly more than 3 years ago Tesla said they expect to see prices for EV halved in 3 years time and it did not take place. In fact it increased.

For many the charging infrastructure is already there. The vast majority charge at home overnight.

95% of driving each day is no more than 35miles. So there is no necessity to visit superchargers away from home.

The same comments were made when internal combustion engine cars started to increase in the early 1900's. Infrastructures will improve, but with electricity at every home, the network is already in place mostly

I think a global pandemic had a big impact on supply chains, creating supply demand backlogs, effecting prices
 
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BrumJim

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Giles is not a happy bunny:
Why I've Pulled the Plug on my Electric Car
The best quote of the piece is is "I'm just a car mechanic. And this is not a car, it's a laptop on wheels.". :laugh:

I like Giles, but he is a self-confessed ****-hole at times.

The "laptop on wheels" is a line that has been trotted out all of my life, right back when electronics were first introduced into cars. It will only get worse (/better) whatever you drive.

In terms of reliability, electric cars are inherently more reliable than diesel or petrol ones, by comparison to trains. Novelty and numbers means that there may be a problem with electric cars at the start, which may or may not be tied to specific manufacturers. As volumes and experience increase, I expect to see electric cars get a lot more reliable and need much less maintenance than their predecessors.
 
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Alex321

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In terms of reliability, electric cars are inherently more reliable than diesel or electric ones, by comparison to trains. Novelty and numbers means that there may be a problem with electric cars at the start, which may or may not be tied to specific manufacturers.

2nd "electric" a mis-type?
 

BrumJim

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2nd "electric" a mis-type?

Corrected. Sorry!
 

icowden

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I like Giles, but he is a self-confessed ****-hole at times.
It's interesting that he is having a rant about his Jaguar i-Pace. The same newspaper carried a very similar rant from Adam Kay about his Jaguar i-Pace.
I'm starting to think the issue is ****-holes from the Times buying Jags instead of a really good EV designed as such from the bottom up and not taking the time to plan journeys or learn how to use Zap Map.

Assuming he was staying in St Ives and going back to Kentish town, he would be travelling 315 miles. Yet he couldn't plan to find a single turbo charger once.
The gearbox fault seems to be a known issue with the i-Pace caused by "no retention to the front electric drive unit causing strain on the wiring going to the EDU parking lock actuator connector". Which sounds like crap design to me.

Should have got a Tesla...
 
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CXRAndy

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Our friends bought a BMW EV. She seems to be having usage issues. Ran it flat in Birmingham 🤔

The two obvious issues are she really hasn't embraced the EV concept, learning your cars range, using the likes of ZapMap and other rapid charger apps. And the biggest issue.

She has a very heavy right foot. I mean everywhere is fast like 90 on a motorway. This will ruin the predicted range, just like in a ICE car.

I know from doing 130mph on the Autobahns in my Model S how much the range drops down.🤣

Doesn't even have a dedicated charger at home. Yes they have facilities to install

I can see her selling it, because
'its faulty'

They do like their stupid German cars🤪
 
As a now-non-driver (for a range of reasons) looking from the outside into the world of electric vehicles, I wonder if reviving the old motorail services might be a consideration - useful for those who will be buying 2nd hand cars with reduced range, and those buying the smaller, lighter e-cars with reduced range which will suitable for many people's normal everyday usage and will surely be available at lower prices in the next 5 - 10 years.

Put your car on the train in Birmingham and get off with it in Lyons, Verona or Warsaw ... Closer to home, put your car on the train in London, get off in Dundee. Car on train on Carlisle, get off in Cornwall ...
Once you are in the area of your destination, you can 'top up' in your normal way. Of course it wouldn't work for a touring holiday, but for a destination holiday, it would seem ideal.
 
Where I live there are no EV charging points in the car parking area. There are a few publicly accessible ones about a mile away.

There are also no EV charging points on the site I am based despite the health board pushing EVs as leased vehicles where possible.

A company engineer told me recently that he got range anxiety coming to us and the cold weather hammered his range and there was no EV charging close to us.

Until these problems get sorted I’m afraid I’ll being sticking to the internal combustion engine.
 
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