Are we being forced to go electric?

[DRM]

Petrol will be next to be squeezed on emissions. Towns and cities will introduce further charges to dissuade drivers. This will lead to more EV sales.

I don’t think they will, local example of Bradford, they’re clamping down on vans/HGV’s, penalising those who deliver services & goods, whilst ignoring all the clapped out diesel cars clogging up the roads, terrified of losing people’s votes imho

 

[midlife]

Even if the government extended the London style ULEZ zone to the whole of the UK that would only mean petrol cars before 2005 (ish) would be fined or excluded

The government will look at taxing EVs first to keep up revenue.

 

[fossyant]

I don’t think they will, local example of Bradford, they’re clamping down on vans/HGV’s, penalising those who deliver services & goods, whilst ignoring all the clapped out diesel cars clogging up the roads, terrified of losing people’s votes imho

Electric cars are out of most people's reach in terms of cost. Unless the prices come down, people will keep their fossil burners.

 

[DRM]

Electric cars are out of most people's reach in terms of cost. Unless the prices come down, people will keep their fossil burners.

That’s right, I certainly can’t afford one, and intend to keep our car going as long as possible

 

[CXRAndy]

That’s right, I certainly can’t afford one, and intend to keep our car going as long as possible

As seen from the continued acceleration of EV ownership, many folk can and are swapping out their ICE vehicles

 

[Jameshow]

As seen from the continued acceleration of EV ownership, many folk can and are swapping out their ICE vehicles

Only those who can afford to or need to.

I don't think people are swapping to EV just because it's an ev esp in the cost of living crisis.

 

[DRM]

As seen from the continued acceleration of EV ownership, many folk can and are swapping out their ICE vehicles

Many of these are company cars, due to the tax situation, same as when company car drivers found out that you could get a double cab pick up with BIK tax same as a van, all they did was wreck the one benefit company van drivers had, then went on the next tax fiddle

 

[midlife]

Most cars are bought used, interesting stats from the smmt.

Never knew that so many changed hands, over 7 million in 2021.! Mostly ICE

https://www.smmt.co.uk/category/vehicle-data/used-car-sales-data/

 

[figbat]

I don’t think they will, local example of Bradford, they’re clamping down on vans/HGV’s, penalising those who deliver services & goods, whilst ignoring all the clapped out diesel cars clogging up the roads, terrified of losing people’s votes imho

Oxford have a small ZEZ which is expanding soon - no emitters allowed.

 

[classic33]

I don’t think they will, local example of Bradford, they’re clamping down on vans/HGV’s, penalising those who deliver services & goods, whilst ignoring all the clapped out diesel cars clogging up the roads, terrified of losing people’s votes imho

Local "clean air zone" at Godley Bank from the roundabout on the same side of North Bridge, on the A58, may soon be subject to similar charges.

Heavy vehicles only way of avoiding it would be to head to Queensbury, or skirting the town centre and heading out to Elland. But the council will have been seen as taking action.

 

[midlife]

Oxford have a small ZEZ which is expanding soon - no emitters allowed.

Not heard of that so had a look. Reminds me of a 70's pedestrianised precinct with silent EVs to run you over lol

Seriously though, would be better if town centres simply banned private cars.

 

[Alex321]

Electric cars are out of most people's reach in terms of cost. Unless the prices come down, people will keep their fossil burners.

Prices will come down, of course.

From the chart above, more pure electric cars sold that petrol in December. And electric + hybrid make up over half the total sales.

And as those cars start to feed through into the 2nd hand market, prices are bound to fall to more reasonable levels.

 

[Alex321]

Only those who can afford to or need to.

I don't think people are swapping to EV just because it's an ev esp in the cost of living crisis.

I would imagine almost everybody who buys an EV are doing so mainly because it is an EV. The cost of living crisis may make people less likely to swap their car at all, but will have no impact on the reason why those who buy an EV do so.

 

[CXRAndy]

This year there are many new small EVs coming, fiat, Renault, Citroen

 

[presta]

Giles is not a happy bunny:
Why I've Pulled the Plug on my Electric Car
The best quote of the piece is is "I'm just a car mechanic. And this is not a car, it's a laptop on wheels.".