Are we being forced to go electric?

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vickster

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i wont argue with that , i get private care through work as a benefit in kind so family cover for less than £30 a month.
When i did my collarbone im glad i had it as the nhs although doing the best they can within their time constraints and budget kept telling me to come back in a few weeks to see how i was doing rather than further investigation that showed my bones hadnt reconnected and needed surgery.
Mrs CK just booked in to see a consultant that may require an operation at the same place i had mine done .It will cost me £200 excess but its worth it to be seen quicker and get sorted on way or another rather than waiting months just to see one then months for the operation ,

Don’t you have a child and wife with chronic conditions?
Does your private healthcare cover all of their care or the NHS?
Would you be able to cover their care and treatment if the NHS didn’t?
That’s what would happen with a private healthcare system like the US so be a bit careful what you wish for :smile:

Anyhow this is certainly off topic from taxing the owners of EVs
 

cyberknight

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Don’t you have a child and wife with chronic conditions. Does your private healthcare cover all of that or the NHS? Would you be able to cover their care if the NHS didn’t?
That’s what would happen with a private healthcare system like the US

mini ck 1 condition is genetic so isnt covered , which is why i originally joined the scheme in the 1st place .But overnight stays in hospitals are covered so i can get a cash sum per night .Mrs CK current requirements could be met by the nhs but given the waiting lists for procedures .
We are goign off topic from electric cars arent we :smile: . Final word i would rather have paid more in tax and had an nhs that works but we have to deal with what we are dealt
 

CXRAndy

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Private providers only do the easy and the profitable procedures. 3 years ago my mother received a pulmonary endarterectomy at Papworth hospital. Pioneering heart/lung surgery. Try getting that privately.

Without it she’d likely be dead now; she’d certainly be housebound on oxygen. She’s now independent and able to do most things someone of her age could do.

The NHS is amongst the most efficient health service in the world in terms of what it delivers for the cost. However it has dropped from the best in the world in 2017 to the 4th best in 2021. Partially due to COVID backlogs but mostly due to underfunding

The NHS is shockingly bad, people take the mick, especially in A&E. So many are there for trivial ailments, they could easily sort either via GP or self treatment. But maybe that's why they're there because getting to see a GP is nigh on impossible. Our GP service, you must ring bang on 8.00AM to get an appointment that week. Only if you pretend to be dying will they see you that day. However our GP service will bombard you with texts asking you to come in for flu jabs, covid jabs. Because they get paid extra for injections and screening.

If you cant see a doctor in a few days, you might as well treat yourself-lets face it most day to day issues are trivial
 

Profpointy

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One scheme I've heard was along the lines all the details taken at point of sale, similar to how TV sales were done. And these forwarded on. An annual reminder sent out on the basis that you still have the bike, unless you inform them otherwise. Guilty until proven innocent, or you prove that you don't have the bike.

That'll stop them pesky children from learning to ride bikes
 

Profpointy

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Gets p!ssed away like most of our taxed money.

My dad used to say that. He's a retired teacher so where he thought his wages came from I don't know
 

Milzy

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Yes but are we been forced to go electric?
No there’s loads of good hybrids coming out now & they will continue for a “LONG” time.
 

Profpointy

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The initial post in the chain you were responding to only mentioned e-bikes as something that might be taxed, not regular pedal bikes (something that has always puzzled me is why they are commonly called "push bikes").

You have to push 'em up steep hills
 
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