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SpokeyDokey

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There will be a need to "sell it to the public" because if it is too unpopular then it is likely to result in losing an election.

I doubt that very much.

Very few major policy changes seem to affect actual voting choices - let alone ones a notch or two down.

Vehicle taxation is hardly a 'biggie' in the grand scheme of personal taxation.
 

CXRAndy

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On the NHS, social care, education, childcare, defence, state pension, other benefits you mean?

Having experienced first or observed through family members how most of these are administered , yes vast sums of our money wasted. Most need privatising.
 

vickster

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Yes because Privatising the railways is working out superbly.

There's always going to be waste in anything the size of the NHS. There's waste in private companies too. I do not want the NHS privatised.

Indeed, although personally I have no issue with private healthcare running alongside the NHS.

Privatising the state pension? How would that work?
Or defence?
Or child and adult social care?
 

CXRAndy

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Indeed, although personally I have no issue with private healthcare running alongside the NHS.

Privatising the state pension? How would that work?
Or defence?
Or child and adult social care?

Private pensions, noval idea. Or just save your own money, invest in what you choose to.

Child care/ adult care plenty of private nurseries and private nurses. Doing a far superior job.

Defence is nothing like it was 30-40 years ago. Kids with good gaming skills are more valuable than squaddie.
 
Private pensions, noval idea. Or just save your own money, invest in what you choose to.

Child care/ adult care plenty of private nurseries and private nurses. Doing a far superior job.

Defence is nothing like it was 30-40 years ago. Kids with good gaming skills are more valuable than squaddie.

I think there is a lot to go wrong with people investing in what they choose to. So many people are not blessed with good financial knowledge or ability.
I lost my dad last year to cancer and the NHS were fantastic for him. I can't imagine how or why a private nursing system could have been better. Maybe better for the shareholders ?
Defence is definitely evolving - but look at Ukraine - plenty of squaddies on the front line. Drone pilots have a use but they aren't retaking villages without troops on the ground.
 

CXRAndy

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Sorry for your loss re father, I've lost several relatives, seen them through their last days. It's very much a lottery who are doing the caring. I've been in hospital NHS and private. I can tell you I'd pay every time to go private. Speedy service, scans with results in less than an hour from consultant, not junior, care comes promptly when needed. Food top notch.

I even pay for my own blood tests privately. Trying to see a GP is virtually impossible
 

cyberknight

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Sorry for your loss re father, I've lost several relatives, seen them through their last days. It's very much a lottery who are doing the caring. I've been in hospital NHS and private. I can tell you I'd pay every time to go private. Speedy service, scans with results in less than an hour from consultant, not junior, care comes promptly when needed. Food top notch.

I even pay for my own blood tests privately. Trying to see a GP is virtually impossible

i wont argue with that , i get private care through work as a benefit in kind so family cover for less than £30 a month.
When i did my collarbone im glad i had it as the nhs although doing the best they can within their time constraints and budget kept telling me to come back in a few weeks to see how i was doing rather than further investigation that showed my bones hadnt reconnected and needed surgery.
Mrs CK just booked in to see a consultant that may require an operation at the same place i had mine done .It will cost me £200 excess but its worth it to be seen quicker and get sorted on way or another rather than waiting months just to see one then months for the operation ,
 

Jameshow

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Private pensions, noval idea. Or just save your own money, invest in what you choose to.

Child care/ adult care plenty of private nurseries and private nurses. Doing a far superior job.

Defence is nothing like it was 30-40 years ago. Kids with good gaming skills are more valuable than squaddie.

Hardly private nursing care isn't doing its job but is rather blocking up the NHS!

Both the social services and private patients aren't paying enough and private companies are taking too great a profit margin.
 

vickster

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Private pensions, noval idea. Or just save your own money, invest in what you choose to.

Child care/ adult care plenty of private nurseries and private nurses. Doing a far superior job.

Defence is nothing like it was 30-40 years ago. Kids with good gaming skills are more valuable than squaddie.

All well and good for evidently wealthy people like yourself…for the majority however

Presumably you’re educating your children privately too from the age of 5?
 
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