A pavement parking odyssey

[Alex321]

Hmm, only the insurance database does that. The government one doesn’t and can be used by anyone.
Indeed, on the results page, there are links to ‘report an untaxed vehicle’ and ‘report a vehicle with no MOT’.

Hmmm.

You are right (of course). I'm sure it used to say that.

 

[Accy cyclist]

It is precisely because of people like you that they blank it out. We as individuals are not supposed to be checking other people's tax & MOT status. That is why the government site that allows you to query the data aks if you are the owner of the vehicle.

I think they ask you if you are the owner simply to see if this is the car you are inquiring about. A bit like if you go into say a D.I.Y store and you don't know the name of a particular type drill, but when you describe it to the bloke behind the counter he goes into the back then comes out with what he thinks you might be after and you say "Yes, that's the one"! They aren't saying that if it isn't then you can't look at it. If they wanted to stop you looking at any vehicle's (apart from your own) M.O.T, tax and insurance status I'm sure they could easily do so.

 

[captain nemo1701]

Got off the bus this morning to find a car dumped on the pavement close to the pedestrian crossing. Nice...Not!.

 

[DCLane]

@captain nemo1701 - if it's alongside zig-zag lines then it's reportable; either 3 points & £100 fine or a course via the Op Snap process if your local police force is part of that.

The one near me which had parked cars on it almost every day now is mysteriously empty once I started reporting them.

 

[Accy cyclist]

Not only parked on the pavement outside my flat with a blue badge in the vehicle, but it was here from 9.30am till 3pm that I know of and probably even longer, as I left my flat to go out at 3pm, yet you're only allowed a 3 hour stay when parking on double yellows like he did. Wouldn't you think a blue badge holder would show a bit of consideration for others who are elderly and or disabled!!

Look at him in the photo below, watching me! He probably saw me elbow his stuck out wing mirror back to give me a little more passing space, but he didn't say anything.

 

[Accy cyclist]

Then as I passed that motor home I had to contend with this one! Again I elbowed the stuck out wing mirror in to give me a little more space. Me and an equally peed off by pavement parking neighbour are going to send off a complaint to Lancs County Council's Highways Department, asking if they will consider putting those cast iron bollards on the pavement to put an end to this constant totally thoughtless pavement parking!!

 

[chris-suffolk]

Had an owner of a brand new Merc AMG parked on double yellow and pavement outside the bakers. Obviously he's entitled to park there with a flash motor like that, else his bread might get stale en-route to his car. Didn't look too pleased as I 'tripped' and nearly broke the wing mirror off. Pavement is very unveven just there!

 

[Juan Kog]

That’s OK no problem at all I’ll walk in the road it’s not very busy .

 

[Drago]

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That’s OK no problem at all I’ll walk in the road it’s not very busy .

That grille looks like a step ladder to me. Up and over the bonnet and roof I would go.

 

[Juan Kog]

That grille looks like a step ladder to me. Up and over the bonnet and roof I would go.

I consider myself an active pensioner, so I think I could manage climbing up the front but jumping off the back could end badly. Plus it’s Hemel Hempstead , best not to provoke the owner .

 

[Drago]

Perhaps it would be better instead for these ejut not to provoke me.

 

[C R]

That grille looks like a step ladder to me. Up and over the bonnet and roof I would go.

If someone were yo actually do that, would it be a criminal offence?

 

[DCLane]

Reported this last week and action's being taken:

Yep, that's a power cable strung across the pavement to the caravan. Presumably someone's living in it.

 

[Drago]

If someone were yo actually do that, would it be a criminal offence?

That's a debatable point.

Criminal damage occurs when a person without lawful excuse destroys or damages property belonging to another, attempting to destroy or damage property, or is reckless as to whether such property is destroyed or damaged.

I would contend that it is not reckless to attempt to continue to walk lawfully along a footway, probably far less reckless than walking jn a live road to by pass such an unlawful obstruction. So, provided you don't do it with intent to cause damage (Google mens rea - its a lengthy subject on its own) and take a reasonable degree of care not to do so then any subsequent damage would not meet the definition, technically no crime.

There is the occasional stated case here and there in similar circumstances and people have got away with in court.

 

[C R]

That's a debatable point.

Criminal damage occurs when a person without lawful excuse destroys or damages property belonging to another, attempting to destroy or damage property, or is reckless as to whether such property is destroyed or damaged.

I would contend that it is not reckless to attempt to continue to walk lawfully along a footway, probably far less reckless than walking jn a live road to by pass such an unlawful obstruction. So, provided you don't do it with intent to cause damage (Google mens rea - its a lengthy subject on its own) and take a reasonable degree of care not to do so then any subsequent damage would not meet the definition, technically no crime.

There is the occasional stated case here and there in similar circumstances and people have got away with in court.

On those odds, how many people would be happy to risk arrest? I know I wouldn't?