A pavement parking odyssey

[Drago]

Indeed. Before they will sell you a car you need a car park certificate from the owner of the property they car will be parked at.

Seems eminently sensible to me.

 

[glasgowcyclist]

In Japan if you live in a city and have a car you must (or at least when I lived there) had to have a space. No space no car. Had a mate spend a fortune on 24 car parks.

Blimey, how many cars did he have?!

 

[Seevio]

Still criminal to ride the bike onto the pavement<snip>

Unlike a car, it is reasonably practical to push a motorcycle onto a footway. Being parked on the footway is not inherently illegal outside of London afaik.

 

[Drago]

By pushing you're still in control of the propulsion and/or brakes, so legally it's no different to actually riding it.

 

[BoldonLad]

On the main road past our estate there was a Range Rover parked today - clearly not a local as he was parked fully on the road!!! (probably worried that going over the kerb onto the "grass" verge - mostly soil/mid - would damage his nice car!!!)

Problem is that this narrows the road to an extent that some people are not willing to "risk" passing if there is anything coming - actually there is plenty of room unless the traffic is a bus or lorry.
hence it cause congestion at busy time - even on a reasonably wide local main road

Start enforcing it and the road will jam up at rush hour!
Oh - and the bit that leads to most of our estate would be impossible - some people would LITERALLY have nowhere to park their car (except their driveway of course!!!!)

a) he or she please

b) did you check for a blue badge?

 

[Accy cyclist]

Shouldn’t dog have been on a lead?

It's difficult to have him on a lead when I have a heavy shopping bag in one hand and a walking stick in the other. He usually heads to the grassed area where he's safe, while I walk on the pavement.

 

[Accy cyclist]

Ok, how about this one! Not a pavement parking problem, more a path blocking problem. These were taken just over an hour ago. That Vauxhall was parked up, blocking my right of way to drive to my dad's grave. Sometimes I park up and walk, but this evening I was short of time, but I still had to walk to his grave as my route to it was blocked. I texted my cemetery friend who replied that the police knocked on her door the other night,, asking if the blue Mercedes in the cemy was hers (it is/was) and could she move it as people aren't allowed to park up in there, unless they're grave visiting. I find that very odd, almost unbelievable! She and others have always parked (considerately) in there, as there's a bad bend outside her house which busses struggle to negotiate. Anyway, as you can see in the pic' below the new tenants saw me taking these photos, but so what! If they want trouble, thinking the whole cemy land belongs to them, then bring it on I say! And many other will think/say the same!!

 

[Accy cyclist]

Still criminal to ride the bike onto the pavement and hardly unforseeable that criminal motorists park on pavements, so both to blame IMO. Crush both.

The motorcyclist does tend to mount the pavement where that orange sign is in the background, then ride down the pavement to where he parks.

 

[icowden]

Start enforcing it and the road will jam up at rush hour!
Oh - and the bit that leads to most of our estate would be impossible - some people would LITERALLY have nowhere to park their car (except their driveway of course!!!!)

Yes. I see that argument a lot on Next Door

"You couldn't enforce a ban on parking on the pavement - people would just park and block the road"

To which the correct answer is:-

"If they did that, a quick call to the Police will see the car removed and impounded as it is an offence to block the road. Buying a car does not entitle you to park it in front of your house, or even in your street."

 

[icowden]

Anyway, as you can see in the pic' below the new tenants saw me taking these photos, but so what! If they want trouble, thinking the whole cemy land belongs to them, then bring it on I say! And many other will think/say the same!!

The problem is that you can take pictures and think what you want. That land looks like private land so the issue is between the owner of the land and the tenant. You have no recourse other than to complain to the land owner and hope they do something.

 

[Accy cyclist]

That land looks like private land so the issue is between the owner of the land and the tenant. You have no recourse other than to complain to the land owner and hope they do something.

It's not private land. It's a cemetery. It's not 'owned' by anyone. It's regulated by the local council authority. If those who are now renting the former Cemetery Lodge attempt to stop me from driving to my relatives graves, or tell me that I can't park in the cemetery I'll see that as a declaration of war, albeit in a metaphorical sense of course.

 

[BoldonLad]

It's not private land. It's a cemetery. It's not 'owned' by anyone. It's regulated by the local council authority. If those who are now renting the former Cemetery Lodge attempt to stop me from driving to my relatives graves, or tell me that I can't park in the cemetery I'll see that as a declaration of war, albeit in a metaphorical sense of course.

There are certainly some self-entitled people in the world

 

[Drago]

It's not private land. It's a cemetery. It's not 'owned' by anyone. It's regulated by the local council authority. If those who are now renting the former Cemetery Lodge attempt to stop me from driving to my relatives graves, or tell me that I can't park in the cemetery I'll see that as a declaration of war, albeit in a metaphorical sense of course.

To be fair Accy, parking like a twerp is antisocial at the best of times, but to do so within the grounds of a cemetery does seem to convey a sense of entitlement for themselves and utter contempt for their fellow human beings.

People just can't be bothered to behave in a decent and considerate manner any more.

 

[oldwheels]

It is not currently on the Isle of Harris FB page but much rage is directed at people blocking access to a cemetery for mourners and also a funeral had problems getting into the cemetery.
Where I live I have noticed a few motorhomes in a cemetery precinct from time to time.

 

[ebikeerwidnes]

Yes. I see that argument a lot on Next Door

"You couldn't enforce a ban on parking on the pavement - people would just park and block the road"

To which the correct answer is:-

"If they did that, a quick call to the Police will see the car removed and impounded as it is an offence to block the road. Buying a car does not entitle you to park it in front of your house, or even in your street."

In many cases the answer is to design, or modify the design, or roads so they are appropriate for the use they get

THEN enforce the parking - and do it properly and not every now and again so that people realise that parking wrongly will almost certainly get you a fine.

Of course this requires money

For example - the road I mentioned about could be widened and sorted out with parking down one side by taking a few feet off the delelist golf course on the South and moving the fence a bit. On teh other side it could be widened by taking away the grass verge and moving the footpath a bit thus taking a few feet off the park ( which is plenty wide enough.

but these solutions take money - so they won't - and TBH I would rsther they spend it on more important things