bobinski
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Zwift, Tour of Watopia 2018
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bobinski
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Never saw you on there Bob, but as @Breedon passed me about 500 metres into the climb I think you must have been well ahead of me.
I started the Alpe in position 304, and finished about 400 so well chuffed. Little fatty like me beating 450 others up a mountain
And when you remember that a fair few will be on zpower and or weight doping then you have even more reason to be a happy little fatty
Now if all those people putting out 4w/kg after best part of an hour raced in Cat A ...Paul, great ride. I am not sure you will be that much slower on the NEO. Your HR speaks for the effort you put in. When you do try the Alp on Monte’s NEO can you and Lee race and the rest of us watch? In fact I would be happy to join in obviously with others closer to my pace!
bobinski
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Knee? If so hope it heals quickly for you.
berty bassett
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i think i just pressed the like button by mistake !And when you remember that a fair few will be on zpower and or weight doping then you have even more reason to be a happy little fatty
Paul, great ride. I am not sure you will be that much slower on the NEO. Your HR speaks for the effort you put in. When you do try the Alp on Monte’s NEO can you and Lee race and the rest of us watch? In fact I would be happy to join in obviously with others closer to my pace!
willing to have a go but all of us in it - why should i be the only one to suffer
fwiw in my opinion i dont think there is much difference between neo and pro on a constant up hill gradient ( for a lightweight anyway )
its when the angle changes all the time that the pro mucks up
constant grades i think the pro sorts its self out plus you have to cope with the back wheel spinning out whenever you stand up
i'm under no illusion and know that bridgy is much stronger than me and watching him grind up alpe - at one point hr was 178 rpm 41 wkg nearly 6 ,hammered it home to me
but more than willing to try nipping at his heels
berty bassett
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has anything been done on the knee front yet mate?
Slept like a dog last night, beaten up to put it mildly
I pootled with Bob until he left me in the road to ruins section. It's amazing how much speed and time is lost if you drop from a big pack. Dean must of been behind me but obviously came passed on the Alp. I'm quite looking for the next one only because it's shorter and flatter, but I need to recover first
I pootled with Bob until he left me in the road to ruins section. It's amazing how much speed and time is lost if you drop from a big pack. Dean must of been behind me but obviously came passed on the Alp. I'm quite looking for the next one only because it's shorter and flatter, but I need to recover first
berty bassett
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lets do it tonight while you have bambi legsSlept like a dog last night, beaten up to put it mildly
I pootled with Bob until he left me in the road to ruins section. It's amazing how much speed and time is lost if you drop from a big pack. Dean must of been behind me but obviously came passed on the Alp. I'm quite looking for the next one only because it's shorter and flatter, but I need to recover first
it will give me a chance
bobinski
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i think i just pressed the like button by mistake !
willing to have a go but all of us in it - why should i be the only one to suffer
fwiw in my opinion i dont think there is much difference between neo and pro on a constant up hill gradient ( for a lightweight anyway )
its when the angle changes all the time that the pro mucks up
constant grades i think the pro sorts its self out plus you have to cope with the back wheel spinning out whenever you stand up
i'm under no illusion and know that bridgy is much stronger than me and watching him grind up alpe - at one point hr was 178 rpm 41 wkg nearly 6 ,hammered it home to me
but more than willing to try nipping at his heels
Agreed re Pro-there is an advantage but nowhere near the advantage on the flats/rolling courses where momentum seems an issue.
Fact is Paul is the strongest cyclechat rider.
Talking about me now
I had a threshold HR and power improvement notification over last 3 months and now just under 30w down on new year best and 2kilos heavier. But max HR 10bpm below best. Confusing.I am up for a race up the Alp.
lets do it tonight while you have bambi legs
Just realized, I will probably have to do it tonight, TT tomorrow, then the next TOW leg before warm weather club run Sunday, .
It is supposed to be recreational this activity
<Tommy>
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I’m officially in the hands of the professionals... they have their theories. Boring stuff.... I’m getting referred for a scan etc.
But from a cycling perspective I feel like pushing myself to and beyond my ftp potential, seems like much further than my knees potential, if that make sense. My knee is the weakest link basically.
So I’ve drawn the conclusion that if I’m going to continue cycling in the short term I’ve got to focus on endurance and conditioning for that, rather than pushing too much through the pedals at any one point. So racing’s prob best left off the table. And my goals have been downgraded somewhat, to just surviving the Pyrenees rather than conquering them!
bobinski
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Tommy
FWIW I play it by ear(knee?) with mine. So, last week not so good and lots of spinning and bailing when discomfort or pain too much. This week good so worth a race. I know we are all different but it may be a similar regime may work for you.
FWIW I play it by ear(knee?) with mine. So, last week not so good and lots of spinning and bailing when discomfort or pain too much. This week good so worth a race. I know we are all different but it may be a similar regime may work for you.
I’m officially in the hands of the professionals... they have their theories. Boring stuff.... I’m getting referred for a scan etc.
But from a cycling perspective I feel like pushing myself to and beyond my ftp potential, seems like much further than my knees potential, if that make sense. My knee is the weakest link basically.
So I’ve drawn the conclusion that if I’m going to continue cycling in the short term I’ve got to focus on endurance and conditioning for that, rather than pushing too much through the pedals at any one point. So racing’s prob best left off the table. And my goals have been downgraded somewhat, to just surviving the Pyrenees rather than conquering them!
Tommy I don't know if you use a cadence sensor and the typical cadence you cycle at. I found a couple of years ago my cadence was down around 70 rpm, This gave me more power, but at the expense is sore knees once in a while. I then spent a winter learning to spin 90-95rpm . I lost a little power as it pushes your heart rate higher, but it relieves knee soreness, due to less mechanical stress in the joint. I now when touring spin and save the low cadence stuff for the odd power events. Hopefully yours is as simple as that . Andy
Breedon
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My legs are killing me today I'm working on a hall, stairs and landing so up and down 
, plus I couldn't sleep probably about 2.30 by the time I nodded off so a easy trainerroad session for later then TOW tomorrow
, plus I couldn't sleep probably about 2.30 by the time I nodded off so a easy trainerroad session for later then TOW tomorrowTime to consider gearing down so you can spin up a mountain. I got funny looks the first time I did a club run with MTB groupset. No one laughs now when I can spin up 25% inclines.
Bikecalc will help with gearing selection. 11-34 road Cass and 33/32 inner rings can be sourced. if MTB too radical
