I'm guessing in the old CE old I'm would be right on the cusp of B if not a B ,my 20min power is up at 3.39w/kg , My score is high because I've only raced Alex's races recently and the courses have definitely suited me with up hill finishes .
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mjd1988
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Yes was playing up for me as well
Before Thursday race I was 286, finished 10th, ZRS went up-to 288. This morning I'm 293. Still well under the current 350 boundary. On a flat course, with the recent result places me in the top 20% of my ZRS group. Which was where I was previously in the old C cat rankings.
I deleted the cache and data from the app, logged back in and everything was working again. its a bit glitchy though saying server error, but a retry gets it working
Cheers ,that's worked is that a tech equivalent of turning off and on again 🤣
Pretty much 😁
Mine hasn't worked for about 2 months - constantly crashes as I ride. I've re-installed it a number of times but no difference. iPhone 12 with latest ios
Ah, might try that. Didn't remove the old cached data.
Probably to form in the Tinies. 1st and 2nd in the flat races, in the 39s and dropped like a brick in the 2 races with hills.
ZRS should be over 260 now but not quite sure what as Zwift can't cope with multiple races in one day - I think it needs to reprocess over night.
I forgot how brutal those Tinies are - at the end of race 3 I had to get off bike, legs like jelly. In E pen, even for us who finished at the front we only had 2 - 3 mins rest
I miss timed race, started my sprint too far back. Ran out out road but would have beaten the winner too if I had a few seconds more road.
ZRS should be over 260 now but not quite sure what as Zwift can't cope with multiple races in one day - I think it needs to reprocess over night.
I forgot how brutal those Tinies are - at the end of race 3 I had to get off bike, legs like jelly. In E pen, even for us who finished at the front we only had 2 - 3 mins rest
I miss timed race, started my sprint too far back. Ran out out road but would have beaten the winner too if I had a few seconds more road.
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Supersuperleeds
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Mine worked fine this morning. Though I use Zwifthack events for finding events.
alex_cycles
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I'm up to 253 which as a lower mid C racer feels about right (between 180 - 350). Using that logic you should be below 350 so the new seeding definitely hasn't helped you, but maybe you had one ride that would have pushed you into B in the old CE world?
In the old world you needed a 3 ride average to get into B, but the new method only used your best performance so is worse for light riders surely?
Also love how they scrapped the 20 mins as it was totally 'wrong', and went with 10 mins and 30 seconds because that's far superior and fully tested and we know we're right as we have PHD brain boxes on it (V1). After 3 months of shoot-shows, they finally accept that their PHD bods may have got it wrong, so dropped the 30 second power, and that's clearly the best way to reseed (V2). Two days later and no, all previous models were clearly wrong and 5 minute power is obviously the way to go (V3)
The problem I see with 5 minute power is it still allows for sandbagging, probably more so than 20 minutes. In a pack, I might be on my absolute limit hanging on and pushing 3.5 w/kg for 5 mins, but others may be cruising, but to their model we look the same. Those cruising, as we all know in races, are not going to push any harder than they need to so they aren't likely to hit their 5 minute max. We'll see though, but we just seem to have gone to roughly where we were previously on the groupings, but promoted climbers like you who have a good 5 minute climb.
Main difference being that zrCS is a very well respected and proven seed used for 2 years on ZR.app. It's what we all wanted them to use in the first place 5 months ago. But we've finally got there after a couple of cluster-forks.
I know some of you aren't big fans of vELO but the vELO races I've done have been the best racing I've had on Zwift.
Anyway - Phil's results since 25 September might have pushed him up or down a bit. With a zrCS of 946, I would expect Phil's SEED to be around 300, so looks like results might have tweaked it a bit. I know we both see ourselves as lightweights at 67kg but we're pretty much in the middle really.
I'm down from 495 to 450.
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steverob
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I'm at 248, so slightly below the halfway point of my RS v1 and RS v2 scores. Recent results have seen me fluctuate between 238 and 256 it seems.
steverob
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@alex_cycles Are you looking to adjust the boundaries for Cyclopathon, or are you going to wait until December is over? I raced last week in D and had already signed up for next week in the same category, but now I'm entitled to race in E again (and by quite a comfortable margin) and obviously with each race getting progressively hillier, it'd be better for me to be in a group that's more to my level.
I've heard of vELO mentioned but have zero knowledge of it - is there a write up somewhere that explains it? Is zrCS the same as vELO?
Re weight, I'd agree with you - tests on Zwift seem to be with a 75kg rider, which I believe at one point was the average weight of a rider on Zwift, so anything in the range 65 - 85kg is normal. It will be riders very light (below 50kg?) and very heavy (above 100kg?) where the physics of Zwift may not work so well if they have a linear model.
My race today was a perfect example how different type of riders can and should be in the same pen - power ranges from 3.2 w/kg for 20 mins and below. On the flat even the strongest are now going to drop a rider like me who's FTP is 2.7/8 w/kg, so they drag me to the line and my sprint takes over. But, as soon as the road goes up, as we would expect, I'm out the back. Even though the NY KoM is only 2km long, and the race for me was 12 mins, I was still over 2 mins behind the winner.
This feels about right. What's not right is when under V1 we had Bs at 4 w/kg racing against Ds and lower Cs. I didn't race under V2 so no idea if that was any good, but V3, at least for me and all in the race today, seemed smoother. No idea about higher pens, they may still be a mixed bag of spanners if the FB comments are anything to go by.
