Does it kick off big style at each sprint ? Or are people just going for time , I'm off at 6pm as I think Peter isStage 2 done. I rode it early after a poor nights sleep i put down to adrenaline from the late race yesterday.I was holding on with the 2nd group and then missjudged the draft on the 2nd sprint and boom-off the back. I pedaled alone for a few mins waiting for another group to catch. Once grouped up i tried to get them to chase the group in front but they werent having any of it! Not sure i was really up to it
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Peter Salt
Bittersweet
- Location
- Yorkshire, UK
Good job. Rubbish night here as well. Nothing to do with the race - something else bothering me. Just 4 hours.Stage 2 done. I rode it early after a poor nights sleep i put down to adrenaline from the late race yesterday.I was holding on with the 2nd group and then missjudged the draft on the 2nd sprint and boom-off the back. I pedaled alone for a few mins waiting for another group to catch. Once grouped up i tried to get them to chase the group in front but they werent having any of it! Not sure i was really up to it
Yup, planning to go at 6pm. Definitely be ready to sprint if you want to stay with the faster groups.
bobinski
Legendary Member
- Location
- Tulse Hill
It kicked off Properly at the first , dragging riders up the road and splitting the group into at least 2, and then again at the second. After that i was in the smaller group that split for 1 sprint then came together and petered out on the last one. Pete is definetly right-you have to sprint. I thought winding up to 5w/k would be enough. Lesson learnt.
Surprised to see HAB riders in our pen
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alex_cycles
Veteran
- Location
- Oxfordshire
Stage 2 done. I rode it early after a poor nights sleep i put down to adrenaline from the late race yesterday.I was holding on with the 2nd group and then missjudged the draft on the 2nd sprint and boom-off the back. I pedaled alone for a few mins waiting for another group to catch. Once grouped up i tried to get them to chase the group in front but they werent having any of it! Not sure i was really up to it
I did a late one on Saturday - only a 15 minute race at 1800 - but it was enough to remind me why I don't race evenings
alex_cycles
Veteran
- Location
- Oxfordshire
Good recovery
Worst overnight HRV I've ever had was 33 after 5 pints and a curry just before Christmas.
(I don't drink much, these days)An evening race would normally give me about 40-45
A very stressful event would be similar 40-45
If I race in the morning it will usually be 50-60
On a low exercise, low stress day it will be 60+
Weirdly though if I don't ride at all it's likely to be lower than if I do a bit.
Illness reduces it too.
Travel messes it right up. If I went by metrics alone I'd say going on holiday is bad for you
It's wasn't an overly tough event, pretty much coasted until sprint finish. It's the length of recovery which surprises me.
When I did the ZRL events where they were full bore events in the evening, recovery would only begin, in the morning the day after, trashing my sleep. Proper recovery took nearly two days
When I did the ZRL events where they were full bore events in the evening, recovery would only begin, in the morning the day after, trashing my sleep. Proper recovery took nearly two days
alex_cycles
Veteran
- Location
- Oxfordshire
For me it was a bit like that but also having to wait all day for a race also did my head in. I just work better all round when I get my exercise in the morning.
Legs
usually riding on Zwift...
- Location
- Staffordshire
I definitely race better in the mornings - especially IRL races where I tend to waste a lot of nervous energy throughout the day in anticipation of evening events. But Zwifting in the evenings is fine and generally helps me get a good night’s sleep - I don’t get that ‘wired’ feeling after a race or workout.
Stage 2 FRR done, last night I was 27th in my race new heart rate threshold of 167 , tonight 28th place and new heart rate threshold of 169 . Held 2.8w/kg for the 1.24 . Despite me thinking a sprinty race doesn't suit me , managed to hold the front group through all 4 sprints . My tactics was to be near the front before the sprint go hard but not flat out and let the group come by me still leaving me in the front group thus helping me hold the front group , The race finally split on the climb at 30km after the sprints . I let the front group go and climbed at my pace picking off riders being spat out as we crested I had to put a massive effort to catch 10 riders in front or be in no man's land . We then rolled to to the finish were I sprinted for mid pack mediocrity and 28th place , Happy with that for a race on paper that doesn't suit me flat and multiple sprints for a lighter rider is not favourable
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Pen B is the right pen for HAB riders.
We’ve been in the same race the first 2 days.
I’ve tried to ride much more to a plan on the first 2 stages. I went out on the TT aiming to ride 20w inside FTP on the way out and then crank it up on the way back. Then you passed me and I had to fight the temptation to chase you! But I stuck to the plan.
I pulled back just over 30 places on the way back but finished just over 30s behind you. I think I could have pushed a little harder on the way out, but glad I stuck to the plan. It’s a long week!
Today I broke it into sections. First target was to get to the roundabout with the lead group. Then
make sure I stayed there until the sprints began. My crap sprint made things hard, but I stayed close enough that I got back on for all 4 sprints and I improved through the sprints. I was hoping to get to the base of the climb with the lead group, but just couldn’t close the gap after the 4th sprint and had to settle into another group that stayed together to the line.
Managed the climbs better than usual, so pleased with that. Looks like I finished just under 2 minutes ahead of you today, which was probably down to staying with the front group through the 4 sprints.
Just been reading about your foot problems. Hope it clears up and doesn’t affect the rest of the Tour for you. Considering that you’re having to cope with that you’ve put in 2 really good performance! Chapeau!!
Crit city this morning, 10 laps. I marked the best ranked rider a Dane Norwegian( for Steen) 
. Race began very modest in pace, I was beginning to regret not going again with a B cat Fast n Flat (seen how much faster Martin was to my C race).
BUT, then lap five started and the Norwegian, Thorkilsdsen (shortened to Thor
) started a breakaway, this fractured the main pack down to 9, then 8 and eventually 7, has he made this same attempt start of each lap. Eventually Ma, a Hong Kong rider took the lead on lap 7, I went with him seeing he was probably over cat in Wkg and would get Dq'd if we got away.
Our lead grew to 4 secs over the chasers, but Thor dragged the pack back on lap 9.
Final lap, with around 500m Thor put the hammer down ⚒️
I went with him initially, backed off, then the pack went for the sprint. I wound the cadence, still seated, dropped the power up aero. I steered to inside for the final corner, thinking I had sneaked silver. Thor had pipped me into bronze. Ma is an 18yr old former A cat last year(he doesn't count )
Really enjoyed the final sprint, even though seated, I hit over 1100W at 139rpm with a new PB this year 9.8W for 15secs (911W)
final sprint
View: https://youtu.be/qsJXzIa_jDo?t=1839
. Race began very modest in pace, I was beginning to regret not going again with a B cat Fast n Flat (seen how much faster Martin was to my C race).BUT, then lap five started and the Norwegian, Thorkilsdsen (shortened to Thor
) started a breakaway, this fractured the main pack down to 9, then 8 and eventually 7, has he made this same attempt start of each lap. Eventually Ma, a Hong Kong rider took the lead on lap 7, I went with him seeing he was probably over cat in Wkg and would get Dq'd if we got away.Our lead grew to 4 secs over the chasers, but Thor dragged the pack back on lap 9.
Final lap, with around 500m Thor put the hammer down ⚒️
I went with him initially, backed off, then the pack went for the sprint. I wound the cadence, still seated, dropped the power up aero. I steered to inside for the final corner, thinking I had sneaked silver. Thor had pipped me into bronze. Ma is an 18yr old former A cat last year(he doesn't count )Really enjoyed the final sprint, even though seated, I hit over 1100W at 139rpm with a new PB this year
9.8W for 15secs (911W)final sprint
View: https://youtu.be/qsJXzIa_jDo?t=1839
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Brusgaard
Über Guru
- Location
- Skive, Denmark
A Dane riding under Norwegian flag then.
bobinski
Legendary Member
- Location
- Tulse Hill
My mistake re HAB riders.
You are dong great and are much better at sticking to a plan then me. I was a bit peeved to be moved up to BON but thought i would use the opportunity of the Tour to improve my endurance. V02 efforts and sprints are supposed to be for next month. But once the racing starts its difficult for me not to push to my limits. Seeing you ahead of me doesn't help either especially when you have better race craft and are obviously stronger than me
A double wammy!The foot is a hassle but barely noticeable when riding. Limping around though is throwing my back out and giving the odd twinge -there a proper excuse for poor performance
Good luck today-I may be on the 2pm and will look out for you.
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A Dane riding under Norwegian flag then.
oops Shall I correct it, or does it not offend you ?
