Zwift Chat

[Norry1]

We will changing door later Pete. We have lots of work and don't want to scratch or damage new doors

Don't tire yourself out, you have been earmarked to do all the work at the front tonight

 

[Norry1]

I must be getting my mojo back - I've just entered (and been accepted for) the British Cycling National Masters Road Race Championships. It is a "rolling" 60 mile event on the North side of Dartmoor 9th July.

 

[Peter Salt]

We will changing door later Pete. We have lots of work and don't want to scratch or damage new doors

Ah, that's experience - I never would have thought of that.

I must be getting my mojo back - I've just entered (and been accepted for) the British Cycling National Masters Road Race Championships. It is a "rolling" 60 mile event on the North side of Dartmoor 9th July.

Sounds lovely. Congratulations, Martin. Can I watch it on GCN+?

 

[Norry1]

Ah, that's experience - I never would have thought of that.


Sounds lovely. Congratulations, Martin. Can I watch it on GCN+?

Why not enter it? Masters starts at 30 years old in British Cycling.

Confusingly, it starts at 40 in British Masters (BMCR).

 

[DCLane]

That was my issue with entering an event at Darley Moor earlier this month; I'm a 'C' on BMCR but an 'E' with British cycling. The event is now in July though.

 

[Norry1]

That was my issue with entering an event at Farley Moor earlier this month; I'm a 'C' on BMCR but an 'E' with British cycling. The event is now in July though.

Is that Darley Moor or is there a new circuit

 

[Legs]

Did we decide on a window of time for completing the Jungle Circuit TT? I've been looking at the zwifterbikes site that Alex linked to, and it suggests that buying gravel wheels (any gravel wheels) will be 11s faster than the stock wheels. But confusingly, the stock Zwift wheelset appears to perform BETTER than the aftermarket wheels (cet. par.) on Sea To Tree. Seems strange, yeah?

My legs are still well DOMSed from Saturday, but at least I can tackle walking down stairs this morning. I want to fit in a ToW ride on the Quatch Quest course this week, too - it's one of the ones I haven't got the badge for, yet.

 

[steverob]

I wonder if it's because Sea to Tree is a mix of gravel and tarmac and the default Zwift wheels aren't as bad on tarmac?

Don't know whether we'll do the Jungle Circuit TT; there was some push-back with regards to setting up meetups and other technical considerations that we never got to the bottom of. I still want to do it, but will probably re-visit it tomorrow after the ZRL Finals have concluded and I've got a bit more time on my hands.

 

[Peter Salt]

Why not enter it? Masters starts at 30 years old in British Cycling.

Confusingly, it starts at 40 in British Masters (BMCR).

That was my issue with entering an event at Farley Moor earlier this month; I'm a 'C' on BMCR but an 'E' with British cycling. The event is now in July though.

I'm completely ignorant when it comes to all the racing licenses, federations and whatnot. I was considering having a go at racing next season so will need to get my head around it somewhere between now and then.

By that time I'll hopefully be able to put another (main) bike together, which would leave me with a spare one just for racing.

Did we decide on a window of time for completing the Jungle Circuit TT? I've been looking at the zwifterbikes site that Alex linked to, and it suggests that buying gravel wheels (any gravel wheels) will be 11s faster than the stock wheels. But confusingly, the stock Zwift wheelset appears to perform BETTER than the aftermarket wheels (cet. par.) on Sea To Tree. Seems strange, yeah?

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My legs are still well DOMSed from Saturday, but at least I can tackle walking down stairs this morning. I want to fit in a ToW ride on the Quatch Quest course this week, too - it's one of the ones I haven't got the badge for, yet.

I think you should do it as soon as possible - before you get a chance to recover

 

[BurningLegs]

Start with cyclocross @Peter Salt - you already have the bike! A lot of leagues run a few summer events which are generally less competitive and less difficult in terms of skills requirements, so a good way to start

 

[Peter Salt]

I wonder if it's because Sea to Tree is a mix of gravel and tarmac and the default Zwift wheels aren't as bad on tarmac?

Don't know whether we'll do the Jungle Circuit TT; there was some push-back with regards to setting up meetups and other technical considerations that we never got to the bottom of. I still want to do it, but will probably re-visit it tomorrow after the ZRL Finals have concluded and I've got a bit more time on my hands.

You're much more experienced in setting these up, Steve, but all those technical nuances was the reason why I proposed to do 2 laps of the Jungle without the lead in.

Presumably, we would then just need to make sure that whatever distance we set, covers at least 2 full laps, and have the 'meetup only view' enabled? Event time would be just a sum of two lap times taken from the Strava segment.

This would eliminate any differences in spawn location and all that jazz.

 

[DCLane]

Start with cyclocross @Peter Salt - you already have the bike! A lot of leagues run a few summer events which are generally less competitive and less difficult in terms of skills requirements, so a good way to start

Zwift racing is probably closer to cyclocross than other disciplines with the hard start then interval-type efforts.

@Peter Salt - I'd suggest getting British Cycling membership as it gives insurance as well, then giving it a go. Bronze or Silver membership gets you the opportunity to race but not accumulate points; I have Silver as it provides 3rd party insurance plus the opportunity to get a full race licence. As long as you're comfortable in a pack of riders it's OK and, for that reason, I'd suggest some chaingang riding would be of significant benefit first.

This year's racing season has really only just started and whilst there's very few Go-Ride races, 4th category is common and that's where you'd start. I wouldn't advise a 3/4 race as the 3rd category riders will have more experience. However, lots of new 4th's are starting from a Zwift/similar or triathlon background. There are also Master's races with British Cycling which are age-categorised.

British Masters Cycle Racing is an age-group specific alternative, but remember that many of the competitors have been racing for decades - and it shows. I once lined up at Leeds, looked left and right and realised the two next to me were both ex-Tour de France professionals. I managed to stick with them for all of 8 seconds.

TLI is a fairly new racing organisation by comparison; cheaper but with less events.

I can't remember which area you're in, otherwise I'd suggest some starting points nearby.

Finally there's time trialling. Cycling Time Trials run most of the events but also local clubs run some less formal ones; you need to be a member of a CTT club to ride though, which is why my club have a few members who'll never ride with the club but joined just to do time trials.

 

[alex_cycles]

I wonder if it's because Sea to Tree is a mix of gravel and tarmac and the default Zwift wheels aren't as bad on tarmac?

Don't know whether we'll do the Jungle Circuit TT; there was some push-back with regards to setting up meetups and other technical considerations that we never got to the bottom of. I still want to do it, but will probably re-visit it tomorrow after the ZRL Finals have concluded and I've got a bit more time on my hands.

Sea to Tree doesn't have enough tarmac (1.1km before the turnoff to the dirt climb) to offset the gain on the gravel climb. I think Zwifterbikes is just plain wrong on that one.

 

[Norry1]

Zwift racing is probably closer to cyclocross than other disciplines with the hard start then interval-type efforts.

@Peter Salt - I'd suggest getting British Cycling membership as it gives insurance as well, then giving it a go. Bronze or Silver membership gets you the opportunity to race but not accumulate points; I have Silver as it provides 3rd party insurance plus a full race licence. As long as you're comfortable in a pack of riders it's OK and, for that reason, I'd suggest some chaingang riding would be of significant benefit first.

This year's racing season has really only just started and whilst there's very few Go-Ride races, 4th category is common and that's where you'd start. I wouldn't advise a 3/4 race as the 3rd category riders will have more experience. However, lots of new 4th's are starting from a Zwift/similar or triathlon background. There are also Master's races with British Cycling which are age-categorised.

British Masters Cycle Racing is an age-group specific alternative, but remember that many of the competitors have been racing for decades - and it shows. I once lined up at Leeds, looked left and right and realised the two next to me were both ex-Tour de France professionals. I managed to stick with them for all of 8 seconds.

TLI is a fairly new racing organisation by comparison; cheaper but with less events.

I can't remember which area you're in, otherwise I'd suggest some starting points nearby.

Finally there's time trialling. Cycling Time Trials run most of the events but also local clubs run some less formal ones; you need to be a member of a CTT club to ride though, which is why my club have a few members who'll never ride with the club but joined just to do time trials.

Good summary

Pete is too young for BMCR (starts at 40) - but I know what you mean about the standard.

I've done some TLI races and they are usually pretty good.

 

[CXRAndy]

Don't tire yourself out, you have been earmarked to do all the work at the front tonight

I've been in a hole all morning