He may well fall foul of the new anti-sandbagger rules which look at 1 and 5 min power as well.
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He may well fall foul of the new anti-sandbagger rules which look at 1 and 5 min power as well.
No, only 83kg which in C isn't 'massive' (the guys in the previous league were 100kg and averaging 300+ watts in a race for the whole race
Thanks for the advice I’ll try and do that.Fantastic results all round - congratulations everyone.
Looks like the podium is already taking shape in C Cat, and 1st place might be up for grabs in D Cat!
@Marino.g - looking at your power numbers, you are only just tipping the scales into C Cat territory. So I agree it's probably better to stay in D for now but you will need to practise your race craft to reduce your avg power but stay in the race. Coast on downhills, stay in the draft at all costs, and equip the most appropriate frame and wheels available for the best speed with lowest power output.
The next DBR race is two laps of Richmond UCI circuit. Richmond will be available to ride on 23rd, 24th, 25th so you could join a D Cat race on the same circuit on those dates and practise your race craft so you know what it takes to be under the 2.5W/KG limit?
Team CycleChat have an opportunity to win the league in D Cat - it might feel weird but the best way you can help them do that is to back off in areas that you can afford to do so (see above) to stay in that D Cat power range. You probably won't be challenging for the podium if you stay in the required power range but you will be contributing to a possible win in the league, and improving as a racer
There are so many sandbaggers in the D group and when in your in 25th place it seems like your not doing very well.
That’s what the Dbr rider does every week he keeps under the limit and doesn’t actually race.
Just to be clear is it 2.5kg for 5, 10, 15 or 20 minutes.
Looking at his stats in ZP, he is not much different from the other front runners. He is either just taking the racing comfortably or doesn't want to push so hard in the B cats. Just curious due to his private strava settings. He does race a lot so may have mastered the art of 'true draft'
Looking at his 20 min, 5 min, 1 min, 30 sec, 15 secs vs mine we're very similar. He clearly knows these courses really well, where to put the power on and where to hold back. Might even be as simple as I put on too much power when in the blob whereas he is more controlled and uses less energy for the same speed.
Shows, despite racing on here now for a few years we all have something to learn
BurningLegs
Guru
That is a real bugger! Shame about the bluetooth limitation too. Fingers crossed it arrives before the next DBR race and you don't have trouble getting hold of one.I tried switching to bluetooth but read later that it is a known limitation of the Powertap pedals that Zwift over bluetooth only picks up the L or the R pedal and doesn't use the combined number. So I could have raced at half power but that seemed a bit pointless
25th on the road will be significantly higher on ZwiftPower though - some riders won't be registered, and others will be DQ'd so 25th may even be a top 10!
As it stands you will be DQ'd if you are over power for the entire event/race, and I think you get promoted into the next category if you consistently achieve over 2.5 for 20 minutes - someone will correct me if I'm wrong there!
The trouble is, there are changes being proposed from 1st of May, so there may only be one more race within these rules! From 1st of May we are expecting speed limits to be applied to riders during events on Zwift, and probably new cat classifiers on Zwiftpower. Watch this space...
If you have another device available during a race, then Zwiftpower's live timings show stats for every rider during the race - updated every 30 seconds. Maybe something to try in your test event in a few days time?
mjd1988
Guru
Looking at his 20 min, 5 min, 1 min, 30 sec, 15 secs vs mine we're very similar. He clearly knows these courses really well, where to put the power on and where to hold back. Might even be as simple as I put on too much power when in the blob whereas he is more controlled and uses less energy for the same speed.
Shows, despite racing on here now for a few years we all have something to learn
I think he is very good at knowing which riders are going to be dq'd and not panicking at well.
I see the fella who won the c race series last time out is now comfortably a b (and has won a b race). Nothing dodgy in that, probably just shows how it makes you push yourself more
https://www.zwiftpower.com/profile.php?z=1404239
steverob
Guru
- Location
- Buckinghamshire
As @BurningLegs alludes to above, it's complicated and it doesn't help that the rules are in flux as well - they seem to change on an almost weekly basis at the moment, with a new amendment coming at the start of May.
But as for last night under the current rules, you needed your best 20 minute power (which probably would have been the first 20 minutes of the ride; it certainly was for me) to be under 2.7357 w/kg. Why that number? If you take 95% of that, it would be 2.599 w/kg - you are currently allowed a 0.1 w/kg leeway (it used to be 0.2 only about a month ago) over the stated 2.5.
Yours was 2.825 w/kg, compared to the next two riders who were around 2.62.
So it's not just a matter of coming under a certain limit as an average for the whole race, but making sure the best part of your ride is also under a limit as well, which is very tricky if the group you're in is pushing hard, meaning you have to as well to keep up.
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They’ve taken my placing away from me again this morning.
Don’t get it when you have a good race and they say it’s too good and moved me up to cat c where I would be in the bottom 5.
I’m done with the virtual racing game but I’ll be back next week to help the Cat D team.
Gutted for you @Marino.g - you deserved the win last night
steverob
Guru
- Location
- Buckinghamshire
They've started allocating the points for the KOMs last night, but haven't completed it yet - in the categories I've looked at so far, only the leader has been given their points. However it is worth noting that ONLY the Box Hill climb is being counted, not the lap banner at the end of the first lap (that's an official confirmation from a DBR guy on the forums).
Which forum is that Steve?
Brusgaard
Über Guru
- Location
- Skive, Denmark
Fatigue
Yes, I think I’m sufflering from that too. My Garmin told me to take a 31 hour rest before racing again, after last night’s effort. Too bad there’s a handicap race on Bkool tonight.
I weighed myself before and after the race, and I was 2 kg down (drank 700ml during).
So despite my bad performance (wkg) I did sweat a lot!
