Just tighter cut- offs, plus what is coming is in ride warnings of wrong category followed by power throttling to slow you down, It will put everyone in the correct cat very quickly
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No, but it looks at the 1 minutes and 5 minute power too now and not just the 20 minute average. It's to stop those who place themselves in a lower category but blast out the pens with big 5 minute power, cruise for the rest of the race (but staying under the 20 minute average), then blasting the last few minutes.
As Andy says, it will start to sort people out pretty sharpish to stick to the correct category else they get their power throttled and won't win anyway.
<Tommy>
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At what point does it reduce your power do you know?
berty bassett
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- I'boro
will it stop people riding tactically below their best though - there will always be some who will take it so seriously that they will do anything to have a virtual medal , be that by weight doping , riding well within their means or any other way just to get a result , that is one reason i dont like racing in big races , i like to race with people who i know are giving it their all rather than doctoring the way they ride just to win
at the end of the day i only ride on zwift to try and get better even though age is not on my side , it takes a strange person to cheat themselves onto a make believe podium but i know there is a lot who feel the need so the more things to try and stop them the better
Ajax Bay
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Daughter's race (23km in 32 minutes) yesterday - dropped at about 5 minutes (not paying attention) but then chased and chased and chased. But her FTP has been re-assessed as 296W (was 270W) so all her training sessions will need to be done at 15W (plus or minus) higher from now on so TSS ^^.
bobinski
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Tommy, there’s a Zwift insider article and zwift cast that go into such detail as has been revealed. It’s being trialed in some crit races you can join from within ZP.
https://zwiftinsider.com/anti-sandbagging-plans/
<Tommy>
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Agreed! Cheaters will always find a way unfortunately.
Although If this helps make things a little better I guess it can’t hurt?
I guess the weight doping thing is harder to catch unless it’s blatant.
<Tommy>
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- Camden, London
Or I could just ask a load of questions here 😄
<Tommy>
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- Camden, London
The thing I struggle with in the zwift category system is that the length of races really effects the power output.
There’s a big part of me that just tries to ignore all the disqualifications and just try to win the race on the road. I got dumped on the final lap of a race earlier. It didn’t really feel like a consolation that I got bumped up a bit in the zp results. I’m still just pissed I got dumped out the back.
There’s a big part of me that just tries to ignore all the disqualifications and just try to win the race on the road. I got dumped on the final lap of a race earlier. It didn’t really feel like a consolation that I got bumped up a bit in the zp results. I’m still just pissed I got dumped out the back.
If they're within their cat it doesn't matter. On some rare occasions, I've found a race easier to be in, I've not ridden away but waited for the opportune moment. Pretty much like in real world situations
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They are also background watching 5 min and 1 min power too not just 20 mins, where you could sit back and relax for most of the race then unleash a big 5 min power figure and destroy the field
It looks like you will be bumped up to A cat Tommy. There is an A+ cat now. but the table says 250W and 4W/kg is now A on the events ZP page at the bottom.
Bob, Pete, Lee, Paul will be A cat
It looks like Del, Chris, Nick Michael, Brendan will be be B cat
Carl will too soon
Im happy in C
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<Tommy>
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- Location
- Camden, London
They are also background watching 5 min and 1 min power too not just 20 mins, where you could sit back and relax for most of the race then unleash a big 5 min power figure and destroy the field
It looks like you will be bumped up to A cat Tommy. There is an A+ cat now. but the table says 250W and 4W/kg is now A on the events ZP page at the bottom.
Bob, Pete, Lee, Paul will be A cat
It looks like Del, Chris, Nick Michael, Brendan will be be B cat
Carl will too soon
Im happy in C
Its always been 4w/kg hasn’t it? I’m still below that for ftp.
Yes 4W/kg and 250W ftp. You're well above that infact you're nudging A+ category
Average of best 3 races in last 90 days (4.1 + 3.9 + 3.8 = 3.9w/kg).
Riders may self-upgrade from their profile settings tab.
| Mixed | Women | ||
|---|---|---|---|
| A+ | 4.6wkg and 300w FTP | ||
| A | 4.0wkg and 250w FTP | A | 3.7wkg |
| B | 3.2wkg and 200w FTP | B | 3.2wkg |
| C | 2.5wkg and 150w FTP | C | 2.5wkg |
<Tommy>
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- Camden, London
Yes 4W/kg and 250W ftp. You're well above that infact you're nudging A+ category
Average of best 3 races in last 90 days (4.1 + 3.9 + 3.8 = 3.9w/kg).
Riders may self-upgrade from their profile settings tab.
Mixed Women A+ 4.6wkg and 300w FTP A 4.0wkg and 250w FTP A 3.7wkg B 3.2wkg and 200w FTP B 3.2wkg C 2.5wkg and 150w FTP C 2.5wkg
I think 4w/Kg is the lower limit? I’m just below that still.
