You're right - it is. Maybe my brilliant theory is wrong then
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I was having to hold 4 w/kg to hold on to the lead C group on that climb
Like I say, there were a few sandbaggers last night pulling the C group apart.
JuhaL
Guru
Sandbaggers...I was having to hold 4 w/kg to hold on to the lead C group on that climb
, they seem to ruin your ride few times recently.
<Tommy>
Illegitimi non carborundum
- Location
- Camden, London
You're right - it is. Maybe my brilliant theory is wrong then
That’s actually a relief to be honest.
Yeah if you were fresh you’d of definitely gone over the threshold too. Not that I have any sympathy 😁
Funny how zwift categorisation plays out sometimes isn’t it. When I first signed up I remember preaching that they should adopt a point system like outdoor racing. But I’m not sure that’s workable really. Who knows.
I don't think I'd have managed 4w/kg even if fresh to be honest!
To be fair the guys at Zwiftpower do know what they're doing and they do a good job considering all the complications - they're clearly cleverer than me! I would still like Zwift to provide them with trainer/PM data so we could see what each rider was using as this is potentially a more useful metric than much of the other rider info on ZP. But they're reliant on the info Zwift provide
<Tommy>
Illegitimi non carborundum
- Location
- Camden, London
I did my own little race yesterday. It wasn’t an official race. It won’t be mentioned on zwiftpower, and it didn’t even have a start line. But about halfway up box hill me and the bloke side by side with me knew we had just entered a race. Either that it was just a complete coincidence we both decided to start knocking out 5w/kg after a bit of back and fourth. I feel slightly bad for using a feather near the top of the climb. But then again at least it let us both know that there was no misunderstanding. It was on! Whatever advantage leafy gave me he clawed back with about 100 metres to go. But I did him by a bike length through the barrier at the top. Bosch! How you like them apples son!! Walked out of that spare room with a swagger that no man in Lycra should have the right to own.
Sad life we lead isn’t it?...
😁😁
Sad life we lead isn’t it?...
😁😁They change the dynamic of the race if each cat is segregated. It means that stronger riders in that cat get help to break free of not quite as strong riders. There is an argument to say that, as they are strong enough to hold on then they deserve to break free, but if the B riders had not been there last night, the strong C riders would have had to work harder to break free, thus using their own energy reserves rather than relying on others.Sandbaggers...
Did it impact me? Probably not in the scheme of things - I held on to the lead group for over half the ride, and I probably could have stayed on over the Italian village and the downhill if I'd tried but was happy to sit up. I have no sprint so wouldn't be contesting at the end anyway even if I had made it to the end
Noooooo - I'll be watching this later. No spoilers
JuhaL
Guru
Don't know is it fair to point accusing finger towards to sandbaggers, i think that sadly famous sticky draft is done most of those damages. Anyway it's train your self-control/patientThey change the dynamic of the race if each cat is segregated. It means that stronger riders in that cat get help to break free of not quite as strong riders. There is an argument to say that, as they are strong enough to hold on then they deserve to break free, but if the B riders had not been there last night, the strong C riders would have had to work harder to break free, thus using their own energy reserves rather than relying on others.
Did it impact me? Probably not in the scheme of things - I held on to the lead group for over half the ride, and I probably could have stayed on over the Italian village and the downhill if I'd tried but was happy to sit up. I have no sprint so wouldn't be contesting at the end anyway even if I had made it to the end
bobinski
Legendary Member
- Location
- Tulse Hill
In Erg? Always little ring at the front.
Nothing quite like racing to the top of a hill against an unsuspecting rider who's just out there doing their own thing! At least it sounds like this guy joined in though!I did my own little race yesterday. It wasn’t an official race. It won’t be mentioned on zwiftpower, and it didn’t even have a start line. But about halfway up box hill me and the bloke side by side with me knew we had just entered a race. Either that it was just a complete coincidence we both decided to start knocking out 5w/kg after a bit of back and fourth. I feel slightly bad for using a feather near the top of the climb. But then again at least it let us both know that there was no misunderstanding. It was on! Whatever advantage leafy gave me he clawed back with about 100 metres to go. But I did him by a bike length through the barrier at the top. Bosch! How you like them apples son!! Walked out of that spare room with a swagger that no man in Lycra should have the right to own.
Sad life we lead isn’t it?...
I do this sort of thing all the time
mjd1988
Guru
I did my own little race yesterday. It wasn’t an official race. It won’t be mentioned on zwiftpower, and it didn’t even have a start line. But about halfway up box hill me and the bloke side by side with me knew we had just entered a race. Either that it was just a complete coincidence we both decided to start knocking out 5w/kg after a bit of back and fourth. I feel slightly bad for using a feather near the top of the climb. But then again at least it let us both know that there was no misunderstanding. It was on! Whatever advantage leafy gave me he clawed back with about 100 metres to go. But I did him by a bike length through the barrier at the top. Bosch! How you like them apples son!! Walked out of that spare room with a swagger that no man in Lycra should have the right to own.
Sad life we lead isn’t it?...
He knew he was in a race
well done on the win! It's the unofficial races that give the sweetest reward
That is not what I read. I read that you will be DQ if your FTP during the ride is more than 4 watt/k (in cat B). So, e.g. if you averaged 4.2 watt/kg and the race is less than an hour, it's ok since 4.2 * 0.95 <= 4 (the 20 min FTP calc).
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Sorry, two different things. Going from cat A to B, or get DQ.
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