Brendan Parker
Veteran
- Location
- essex, england
Can’t remember who mentioned it but how do we know it’s Watopia's Waistband next??
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JuhaL
Guru
feltet.dk website seems to have information what are the stages. Don't understand Danish but you can find what are the stages.
Feltet.dk Race Series (samtlige løb køres fra klokken 20.15)
1. afdeling: Tirsdag den 18. februar. Rute: 3 omgange af Astoria Line 8 i New York. Distance: 35,1 kilometer. Højdemeter: 427.
2. afdeling: Tirsdag den 25. februar. Rute: Watopia Waistband i Watopia. Distance: 25,5 kilometer. Højdemeter: 83.
3. afdeling: Tirsdag den 3. marts. Rute: 3 omgange af Innsbruckring i Innsbruck. Distance: 25,4 kilometer. Højdemeter: 216.
4. afdeling: Tirsdag den 10. marts. Rute: 2 omgange af UCI Worlds Route i Richmond. Distance: 32,6 kilometer. Højdemeter: 284.
5. afdeling: Tirsdag den 17. marts. Rute: Volcano Climb After Party i Watopia. Distance: 40,0 kilometer. Højdemeter: 266.
6. afdeling: Tirsdag den 24. marts. Rute: 15 omgange af Downtown Dolphin i Crit City. Distance: 29,1 kilometer. Højdemeter 8.
7. afdeling: Tirsdag den 31. marts. Rute: 5 omgange af The 6 Train i New York. Distance: 32 kilometer. Højdemeter 305.
@Brendan Parker - at the bottom of this article https://www.feltet.dk/nyheder/feltetdk_og_zwift_lancerer_stor_loebsserie/
Nah - it's a bit of a one dimensional tour. I'm sticking to workouts 4 days, racing on Tuesdays.
Brendan Parker
Veteran
- Location
- essex, england
Cheers, got an afternoon off going for a recce 
The last one -The Pretzel - is pretty big (2.5 hours-ish?), and they're all very hilly, but no not mega epic. I suppose the challenge is how hilly they are, and the fact they have to be done on the three consecutive days. I will ride them on 100% difficulty which on the Neo I think is reasonable hill climbing training, and a good excuse to force me to do it!
Checked out Dylan Johnson on youtube @bobinski ..... flip he's dull! He may know his stuff, but I struggled to get through whole videos. Anyway, re the FTP video he did confirm that the workouts I'm doing (the 2x20 mins @ FTP) is a standard workout to improve your FTP (I've also got workouts for 3x15 mins which he also said was a standard workout) 
Unfortunately he also re-iterated the need to mix hi-intensity with zone 2 rides so I'll need to learn to stick the trainer in zone 2 ERG mode and pootle and ignore the other riders coming past me 
My main caveat to this guy is, whilst he quotes a lot of science, if you look at the articles he refers too, most of the time it's the same piece of research from 2010 (there may be more but I only saw that one pop up in multiple videos). The sceptic in me thinks he has found a piece of research that matches his own view and he'll keep pushing that one out. I'd have been more convinced by his arguments if he had quoted a wider source of research (as he's trying to prove his arguments are based on science).
Anyway, thanks for linking to him, he had a bit of interesting stuff to say, but I think I'll go back to GCN and Chris Pritchard as they're more my style of 'info-tainment'
Now, do I do an FTP workout later, or a zone 2 ride?
Unfortunately he also re-iterated the need to mix hi-intensity with zone 2 rides so I'll need to learn to stick the trainer in zone 2 ERG mode and pootle and ignore the other riders coming past me My main caveat to this guy is, whilst he quotes a lot of science, if you look at the articles he refers too, most of the time it's the same piece of research from 2010 (there may be more but I only saw that one pop up in multiple videos). The sceptic in me thinks he has found a piece of research that matches his own view and he'll keep pushing that one out. I'd have been more convinced by his arguments if he had quoted a wider source of research (as he's trying to prove his arguments are based on science).
Anyway, thanks for linking to him, he had a bit of interesting stuff to say, but I think I'll go back to GCN and Chris Pritchard as they're more my style of 'info-tainment'
Now, do I do an FTP workout later, or a zone 2 ride?
My only reservation with all this talk of more zone 2 rides is that it's not always made clear in articles that what is usually really meant is you should do LOTS of LONG zone 2 rides in addition to your few high intensity intervals and workouts. This is obviously fine for the pros and effectively builds endurance (and being in zone 2 allows them to train for longer) but for the time-limited amateur with work and family commitments this isn't always the case. For example if you can only manage 3 circa 1 hour rides a week, swapping a couple of these from races or high intensity workouts to zone 2 rides for the same overall amount of time on the bike I don't think will do much good - probably the opposite.Checked out Dylan Johnson on youtube @bobinski ..... flip he's dull! He may know his stuff, but I struggled to get through whole videos. Anyway, re the FTP video he did confirm that the workouts I'm doing (the 2x20 mins @ FTP) is a standard workout to improve your FTP (I've also got workouts for 3x15 mins which he also said was a standard workout)
My main caveat to this guy is, whilst he quotes a lot of science, if you look at the articles he refers too, most of the time it's the same piece of research from 2010 (there may be more but I only saw that one pop up in multiple videos). The sceptic in me thinks he has found a piece of research that matches his own view and he'll keep pushing that one out. I'd have been more convinced by his arguments if he had quoted a wider source of research (as he's trying to prove his arguments are based on science).
Anyway, thanks for linking to him, he had a bit of interesting stuff to say, but I think I'll go back to GCN and Chris Pritchard as they're more my style of 'info-tainment'
Now, do I do an FTP workout later, or a zone 2 ride?
I'm not saying this is the case with you Carl, it's just something I think people should be aware of if they have limited time they can spend on the bike.
Looking at Tuesday's race in Zwiftpower it looks like there are a few riders in the rankings with 4.1 Watt/kg in cat B. Shouldn't they be DQ ?
Lot's af B's able to stay right around the 4.0 mark for the duration of the races...not looking good for the races to come.
Lot's af B's able to stay right around the 4.0 mark for the duration of the races...not looking good for the races to come.
I noticed that, but think I read that the Cat's are based on your automated ZP category and not what you do in a particular race. So you can exceed 3.9w/kg in Cat B as long as the average of your last 3 races on ZP are still 3.9w/kg or less. So if some of those guys keep putting in those same kind of watts they'll have to move up to Cat A from stage 4 onwards presumably as their ZP Cat rating will have changed?!
I watch a video of a chap who has been involved with endurance athletes for many many years. He used cross country skiing as the example along with ultra endurance runners, cyclists too.
I Liked the observation that Pro cyclists train mostly at 197W
Marit Bjørgen, one of the greatest skiers ever along with other top athletes did around 80% very low intensity and 20% HIT.
I take from it, that most of your riding should be easy, whether for 1hour, 3 hours or 5 hours. Only do HIT when fully recovered and motivated to work really hard. I suppose it all depends on how structured you want to make the schedule. Commuting is a good way to get lots of easy rides with racing as the HIT. or doing a designed HIT workout.
Ill dig out the video and add to my comment
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MALsI0mJ09I&feature=emb_logo
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This is essentially what I've been doing over the last few months. All of my outdoor rides (daily commute and odd longer ride) have been Z1-2. This has been supplemented with a couple of HIT sessions during the week.
The proof will be in the pudding come the spring when I move back to more 'normal riding'. My endurance had been lacking so I hope that this will have improved along with my fat max power.
It has been frustrating, particularly during longer rides, where I've been rigidly sticking to Z2 and being overtaken by other cyclists. The urge is to ride back up to them (or not let them catch you in the first place), so you do have to be disciplined!
It has been frustrating, particularly during longer rides, where I've been rigidly sticking to Z2 and being overtaken by other cyclists. The urge is to ride back up to them (or not let them catch you in the first place), so you do have to be disciplined!
<Tommy>
Illegitimi non carborundum
- Location
- Camden, London
I’d suggest that because (I assume) we’re all limited to how much time we can spend on the bike. And it’s something that we do out of choice and (again I assume) for fun. That you do what puts on a smile you on face. For what it’s worth you might want to add what you expect to get out of your specific plan or you run the danger of talking at cross purposes.
But I am glad we’re at the point where everyone’s putting up videos to support their opinion. Here’s mine 👍
View: https://youtu.be/jofNR_WkoCE
But I am glad we’re at the point where everyone’s putting up videos to support their opinion. Here’s mine 👍
View: https://youtu.be/jofNR_WkoCE
bobinski
Legendary Member
- Location
- Tulse Hill
Checked out Dylan Johnson on youtube @bobinski ..... flip he's dull! He may know his stuff, but I struggled to get through whole videos. Anyway, re the FTP video he did confirm that the workouts I'm doing (the 2x20 mins @ FTP) is a standard workout to improve your FTP (I've also got workouts for 3x15 mins which he also said was a standard workout)
My main caveat to this guy is, whilst he quotes a lot of science, if you look at the articles he refers too, most of the time it's the same piece of research from 2010 (there may be more but I only saw that one pop up in multiple videos). The sceptic in me thinks he has found a piece of research that matches his own view and he'll keep pushing that one out. I'd have been more convinced by his arguments if he had quoted a wider source of research (as he's trying to prove his arguments are based on science).
Anyway, thanks for linking to him, he had a bit of interesting stuff to say, but I think I'll go back to GCN and Chris Pritchard as they're more my style of 'info-tainment'
Now, do I do an FTP workout later, or a zone 2 ride?
Dull?!? Each to their own 😁
I don’t think any of us have the time for the z2 work that work for the serious amateurs and Pro’s. Mix it up Carl and you’ll be stronger and faster. I know what I want out of my TP and the research I have done suggests a way forward that for me is a lot more fun. The proof of my pudding will be where I am come June and July.
I do have the equivalent of your 2x 20 later today although I think it’s a bit messier and in most of their TP’s sandwiched between a hit and a recovery session.
