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Joffey

Big Dosser
Location
Yorkshire
Just looked at your profile on ZP and you have no ranking (below is where mine shows).

You need to take part in Zwift races (as opposed to group rides like TdZ). ZP then takes your average of your top 3 rides w/kg (it's 95% of your best 20 minute time).

Cat E doesn't exist, it's only for rides where the starters are not split up. I would think you're D cat (<2.4 w/kg). Do a few organised races and after a few ZP will give you a cat :okay:


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Ah that’s why! Cheers! I was gonna do the Race to the Alpe tomorrow and there is a Cat D & E category. As I’m unrated and still got a cold I presume if I enter E they won’t disqualify me.

Once I’m better I fancy doing a few crits so hopefully I’ll get my rating then.
 

bridgy

Legendary Member
Location
Cheddar
Ah that’s why! Cheers! I was gonna do the Race to the Alpe tomorrow and there is a Cat D & E category. As I’m unrated and still got a cold I presume if I enter E they won’t disqualify me.

Once I’m better I fancy doing a few crits so hopefully I’ll get my rating then.
Although @Whorty is right about what cat E normally means, it does look like that race has a cat E that is actually based on rider level - it's marked as 0.1-1.9 w/kg. Have a look at your recent efforts in our races and choose the category that best reflects your w/kg in those
 

Whorty

Gets free watts from the Atom ;)
Location
Wiltshire
Ah that’s why! Cheers! I was gonna do the Race to the Alpe tomorrow and there is a Cat D & E category. As I’m unrated and still got a cold I presume if I enter E they won’t disqualify me.

Once I’m better I fancy doing a few crits so hopefully I’ll get my rating then.
To see roughly where you are, you can click on your profile in ZP, then click on the 'View 95%' button. This will bring up the '95% of 20min' column (as below for you). This is how ZP classifies you. Looking at your recent rides, if these were races ZP would have you as D as your w/kg is less than 2.4 (your ave is about 1.9 w/kg).

Noting what Bridgy said about the ride you're looking at, as the Cat E in that ride (never seen that before!) is up to 1.9 w/kg I think you can justify riding in E cat. Personally though, I'd go in D for that ride as having slightly faster riders around you may push you on a little.

If you do start racing, look to the shorter, flatter races initially. London flat course is good, and the Crit races would probably suit you too. Racing on Zwift isn't just about power, race craft comes into it too and the more races you do the better you will get :okay: Good luck :hugs:

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JuhaL

Guru
The way Zwift categorize events is no logic. For example today is Andre Greipel Fight ALS Mega Ride and that is Cat E 2,0 - 2,5w/kg group ride.

edit. 8231 riders sign up now for that event
 
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Well I tried the Social ZESP ride around the Uber pretzel and did not get of to to a good start, I joined the ride from Richmond and I and one other rider was in the pens with loads of messages being displayed and the counter showing there was 50+ riders in the pens, I posted a message about this and had a reply saying there was 80+ in the pens.

I quit the ride rebooted Zwift and joined from watopia and all the riders were present and correct but now messages would not show .

Ride started all good but no ride ons or power ups for the duration I rode , I did get Epic KOM and a Volcano. KOM a Sprint jersey but nobody else showed on the list 😀😀.

Lost the group at 39miles still full of snot so called it a day , no route ticked off☹️

What I did notice was I picked the tarmac pro bike and the Light weight MEILENSTEIN wheels and was faster on the hills but slower in the draft on the flat ,it seamed a few riders were stopping and changing bikes at different points of the ride
 
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Del C

Veteran
Location
Horley
TdZ Stage 7- 45.47 for me please @peterob

Felt a bit frustrated by that immediately after the ride. Thought the 2nd lap was a bit of a struggle and maybe I'd started too fast. But looking at it afterwards I finished in the top third (135 out of 474) and the 2nd lap only a minute slower, so maybe I was just expecting too much.

Unfortunately, my time off from racing after my little cardio incident has caught up with me. One of my 3 races in the last 90 days has dropped out of Zwiftpower, and I've dropped back down to C category again. Maybe for the best as I need to work back towards earning B category again now that I've got the all clear.
 

<Tommy>

Illegitimi non carborundum
Location
Camden, London
TdZ Stage 7- 45.47 for me please @peterob

Felt a bit frustrated by that immediately after the ride. Thought the 2nd lap was a bit of a struggle and maybe I'd started too fast. But looking at it afterwards I finished in the top third (135 out of 474) and the 2nd lap only a minute slower, so maybe I was just expecting too much.

Unfortunately, my time off from racing after my little cardio incident has caught up with me. One of my 3 races in the last 90 days has dropped out of Zwiftpower, and I've dropped back down to C category again. Maybe for the best as I need to work back towards earning B category again now that I've got the all clear.

Good news bad news really Del. You might of been booted out of cat B temporarily. But it must put you pretty close to the top of the C cat standings 😄.

And you’ll be back in B soon enough I’m sure mate. Like you say you’ve been taking it easy lately (can’t believe I’m actually making excuses for you!)

Regarding the lap times I wouldn’t pay much attention I don’t think. A minute is nothing depending on how much of a pull you were getting. Maybe look at your power numbers to get a better picture?
 

Del C

Veteran
Location
Horley
Good news bad news really Del. You might of been booted out of cat B temporarily. But it must put you pretty close to the top of the C cat standings 😄.

And you’ll be back in B soon enough I’m sure mate. Like you say you’ve been taking it easy lately (can’t believe I’m actually making excuses for you!)

Regarding the lap times I wouldn’t pay much attention I don’t think. A minute is nothing depending on how much of a pull you were getting. Maybe look at your power numbers to get a better picture?
Yep.

Had a look after the ride and I agree with you.

My first lap was actually slightly quicker than when I did the 1 lap ride on Thursday. I lost about 15 watts on the 2nd lap, but I got isolated for a little while on the 2nd lap after the long straight climb and lost a little time there.

I finished in the top third and overall my power numbers look like they're round about B level, so I should be happy with the ride.
 

Breedon

Legendary Member
TdZ Stage 7- 45.47 for me please @peterob

Felt a bit frustrated by that immediately after the ride. Thought the 2nd lap was a bit of a struggle and maybe I'd started too fast. But looking at it afterwards I finished in the top third (135 out of 474) and the 2nd lap only a minute slower, so maybe I was just expecting too much.

Unfortunately, my time off from racing after my little cardio incident has caught up with me. One of my 3 races in the last 90 days has dropped out of Zwiftpower, and I've dropped back down to C category again. Maybe for the best as I need to work back towards earning B category again now that I've got the all clear.
My second lap yesterday was 56 seconds slower than the first although its a shortish course you tend to go hard at first then tend to ease off because your fked:laugh:, but it was my first time riding that course and world
 

Del C

Veteran
Location
Horley
My second lap yesterday was 56 seconds slower than the first although its a shortish course you tend to go hard at first then tend to ease off because your fked:laugh:, but it was my first time riding that course and world
Yeah. I decided to ride the first lap hard and paid a little for it on the back half and then on the second lap.

I'm tempted to ride it again tomorrow and go just a little easier on that first long straight climb. It's deceptive because it's not really steep but the length of the climb and gradient sucks you in and its tempting to keep pushing.

I don't know if it will really make any difference but it may be worth a little experiment, just to see if it helps me to hold the power a bit better on the second lap.
 

Whorty

Gets free watts from the Atom ;)
Location
Wiltshire
Yeah. I decided to ride the first lap hard and paid a little for it on the back half and then on the second lap.

I'm tempted to ride it again tomorrow and go just a little easier on that first long straight climb. It's deceptive because it's not really steep but the length of the climb and gradient sucks you in and its tempting to keep pushing.

I don't know if it will really make any difference but it may be worth a little experiment, just to see if it helps me to hold the power a bit better on the second lap.
Looking on Strava you're ahead of me in the first 1/4 of the ride - I went off 'steady', letting the large number of riders early on give me some free speed whilst I saved my legs for the later climbs. I only picked it up towards the end of that first long drag as I try to find a group of riders I can stick with. I would offer to join you tomorrow on your 2nd go, but I'm buggered tonight having done a 2 hour sweet spot workout xx(
 

Del C

Veteran
Location
Horley
Looking on Strava you're ahead of me in the first 1/4 of the ride - I went off 'steady', letting the large number of riders early on give me some free speed whilst I saved my legs for the later climbs. I only picked it up towards the end of that first long drag as I try to find a group of riders I can stick with. I would offer to join you tomorrow on your 2nd go, but I'm buggered tonight having done a 2 hour sweet spot workout xx(
I did a compare on our rides and saw that.

I'm pulling away from you all the way to the top of the first climb, but after that you're pulling me back all the way down the next rolling straight. If I remember right, you catch me and pass me around the start of the next long climb.

I said earlier that I lost time on the second lap after the first straight climb, but I got that the wrong way round. I spent an average of 20 watts more on the first lap, yet took 2 seconds longer on the long rolling straight after the first climb. That was down to being in a group on the second lap.

All in all, that's a clear win for your approach.
 

Breedon

Legendary Member
Yeah. I decided to ride the first lap hard and paid a little for it on the back half and then on the second lap.

I'm tempted to ride it again tomorrow and go just a little easier on that first long straight climb. It's deceptive because it's not really steep but the length of the climb and gradient sucks you in and its tempting to keep pushing.

I don't know if it will really make any difference but it may be worth a little experiment, just to see if it helps me to hold the power a bit better on the second lap.
Your spot on regards the first climb made that mistake twice :blink:
 

IrishAl

** Full Time Pro **
Location
N.Ireland
I did stage 7 yesterday evening but I missed the start and joined about 30s late. By the time I’d got myself going I was near last place and left to chase stragglers. No official time either on Zwiftpower but I was in the 48 minute territory. A bit annoyed as I can’t see myself getting another crack at it. To top it off I fell off my bike this morning outside when my chain or gears slipped thankfully at low speed and the car driver behind was paying attention. More embarrassing than anything but my hip has a light touch or road rash. Most importantly the bike seems ok apart from the sh^** gears.
 
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