Of course you can't. You've spent so long trying to avoid having to say it you couldn't possibly say it now.
who are pavements for?
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Of course you can't. You've spent so long trying to avoid having to say it you couldn't possibly say it now.
Angelfishsolo
A Velocipedian
- Location
- Cwmbach, South Wales
The LA's authorise the cycleways. I guess they keep no record of what they have authorised then?
Angelfishsolo
A Velocipedian
- Location
- Cwmbach, South Wales
I have no personal issue with children riding on pavements. It is adults I have been talking about throughout as well you know.
JonnyBlade
Live to Ride
- Location
- Gosport-Hampshire
me thinks this is becoming a little volatile and ner ner ner ner ner!
Within the context of what he meant rather than what he said.
Actually children are NOT allowed to cycle on pavements, it is illegal.....the difference is that under 10 they cannot be prosecuted as they are below the age of responsibility. There is absolutely no discretion for age in the legislation... Section 85 of the Local Government Act 1888 extends the definition of "carriage" to include "bicycles, tricycles, velocipedes and other similar machines, and this is the one that is normally used.
Shame really as most cycles are (technically) defined under the 2003 Pedal Bicycles (Safety) Regulations that describe a bicycle, theoreticaly exempting trikes and unicycles.Equally recumbents do't need bells if the "saddle" is below 63 cms.
Shame really as most cycles are (technically) defined under the 2003 Pedal Bicycles (Safety) Regulations that describe a bicycle, theoreticaly exempting trikes and unicycles.Equally recumbents do't need bells if the "saddle" is below 63 cms.
Angelfishsolo
A Velocipedian
- Location
- Cwmbach, South Wales
BTW <16 can not be given a FPN.
Angelfishsolo
A Velocipedian
- Location
- Cwmbach, South Wales
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Didn't you just say that you were happy for adults carrying children on their bikes to use the pavement?
And I don't think this is getting heated. This always happens when over-arching statements are broken down.
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Granted. I should have said lone or group of adults without children.
Didn't you just say that you were happy for adults carrying children on their bikes to use the pavement?
And I don't think this is getting heated. This always happens when over-arching statements are broken down.
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Granted. I should have said lone or group of adults without children.
Yes they do but TRO by TRO and usually in a way that is difficult to search through them to find out whether there is one for a particular location. Keeping no maps does not mean keeping no records, they just tend to be "Beware of the Leopard" records.
Angelfishsolo
A Velocipedian
- Location
- Cwmbach, South Wales
[QUOTE 1463578"]
Didn't you just say that you were happy for adults carrying children on their bikes to use the pavement?
And I don't think this is getting heated. This always happens when over-arching statements are broken down.
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Granted. I should have said lone or group of adults without children.
Didn't you just say that you were happy for adults carrying children on their bikes to use the pavement?
And I don't think this is getting heated. This always happens when over-arching statements are broken down.
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Granted. I should have said lone or group of adults without children.
Angelfishsolo
A Velocipedian
- Location
- Cwmbach, South Wales
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Fair enough. And if it's ok for parents to break the law, why is it not ok for a timid cyclist on the same route?
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I would suggest that timid cyclist seek training. What would you think about a timid driver using the hard shoulder?
Fair enough. And if it's ok for parents to break the law, why is it not ok for a timid cyclist on the same route?
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I would suggest that timid cyclist seek training. What would you think about a timid driver using the hard shoulder?
A driver has to have demonstrated a competence to drive on the roads before they can get a license. Anyone as timid as you suggest would not get a license in the first place or if they did would quickly have it removed. Cyclists are very different and anyone can cycle at any age.
Angelfishsolo
A Velocipedian
- Location
- Cwmbach, South Wales
Just because cyclists are unlicenced does not mean they have no responsibility to ensure they are equiped to deal with situations they may find themselves in. What happens to a timid cyclist whem a pavement is closed or blocked?
