And you responded with questions about anticipated public and police behaviour in the face of hypothetical events that are irrelevant to the thread. Just to clarify, I meant use or occupy not in the sense of hold a demonstration, but in the everyday sense that people use or occupy public spaces in the course of going about their business.
who are pavements for?
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And you responded with questions about anticipated public and police behaviour in the face of hypothetical events that are irrelevant to the thread. Just to clarify, I meant use or occupy not in the sense of hold a demonstration, but in the everyday sense that people use or occupy public spaces in the course of going about their business.
Angelfishsolo
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Which implies pedestrians may walk on roads (doesn't it). I am taking the implication to the next logical step.
Cyclist at 5mph, runner at 12? Considerate cyclist at 10 mph on a wide pavement, runner expecting everyone else to get out of the way on a narrow one?
You believe: So who has the greatest inertia. A 85Kg runner doing 10mph or a 65Kg cyclist with a 14Kg bike doing 10mph?
I walk on the road a lot. I'm not sure it's logical to assume when I say that that I am talking about walking down the middle of the A10.
ITYM momentum and given the wide range of rider masses and the relatively small mass of a bike relative to the rider it could be less or it could be more.
Angelfishsolo
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Same inertia. Bike more likely to cause more injury do to it almost certainly being made of metal.
Angelfishsolo
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See, again you're only applying it to yourself.
You need to consider the bigger picture and think about, for example, a mother with three children attached to her bike who chooses quiet roads as much as possible but is unable to avoid a substantial stretch of very busy road with a lovely, wide pavement alongside.
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The law makes alowences for this. I am not against this type of riding although I could never advocate it.
See, again you're only applying it to yourself.
You need to consider the bigger picture and think about, for example, a mother with three children attached to her bike who chooses quiet roads as much as possible but is unable to avoid a substantial stretch of very busy road with a lovely, wide pavement alongside.
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The law makes alowences for this. I am not against this type of riding although I could never advocate it.
Angelfishsolo
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And unsigned city centres? We get on. In harmony. Outside of the angry internet telling us that we don't, or shouldn't.
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Then I am very happy for you
And unsigned city centres? We get on. In harmony. Outside of the angry internet telling us that we don't, or shouldn't.
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Then I am very happy for you
No. Momentum is a product of mass and speed. As for the bike it may or may not be a part of the collision.
So when you kept talking about maps of the TROs provided by the LAs people could refer to you were in fact making it up? Getting a straight answer from you is like trying to nail jelly to the wall.
Angelfishsolo
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So, you're not against illegal pavement cycling if it's appropriate and considerate?
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I can't say that.
So, you're not against illegal pavement cycling if it's appropriate and considerate?
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I can't say that.
No, momentum is a property of a moving mass only, inertia is the property of a mass whether its moving or not. A stationary body has no momentum but it still has inertia.
Angelfishsolo
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My Mum used to work for the LA. If I ask the LA for info I know they have maps. Who do you think is responsible for the authorisation of these TRO?
Yes, they have TRO maps showing all the waiting and parking restrictions just like this one.
I've yet to see a map of cycle track TROs
