Where have all the anti-vaxxers gone?

[Ming the Merciless]

I don’t understand how. They can still spread it around even after double jabs. Also these vulnerable people should already be vaccinated.

Double jabs significantly reduces the likelihood someone will become infectious even if they do catch it. If they do become infectious it reduces the period of time they are infectious.

Not every vulnerable person can have the vaccine and not every vulnerable person generates good immunity from two jabs. Their vulnerability might be a weak / suppressed immune system.

 

[KnittyNorah]

You know who they are. And it’s not compulsory but the children can have their choice even if the parents don’t want them to have it

No I don't know who 'they' are. Please tell me.
And the children can have their choice when they are old enough to make informed decisions about such things, go to the doctor alone and so on.
It is very, very far from compulsory.
If a child doesn't want the same as its parents want for it, then past a certain age and level of reasoning/understanding, the child's wishes must be listened to alongside the parents.
No health professional who wishes to stay registered for their profession is going to hold down a teenager who doesn't want the vaccine to jab the kid on the instructions of the parent, and a teenager who presents themselves eagerly for vaccination will not be sent away with a flea in their ear because their parents say they can't have it.
I am well over 75 years old and when I was a teenager our GP was perfectly happy to see me alone and let me make decisions about my own health, such as were available 'back in the day'. This is nothing new.

 

[neil_merseyside]

All the parents that don't want their kids to have a jab are pretty much ensuring the kids will actually insist they have it, or so I'd have thought...

 

[C R]

German covid sceptic shoots dead a petrol station attendant who had asked him to wear a mask as per the rules.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...-worker-killed-in-germany-after-face-mask-row

 

[Johnno260]

German covid sceptic shoots dead a petrol station attendant who had asked him to wear a mask as per the rules.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...-worker-killed-in-germany-after-face-mask-row

This is a worry I have here, but with violence directed at a healthcare worker.

 

[KnittyNorah]

This is a worry I have here, but with violence directed at a healthcare worker.

Agreed - I have never been so glad to be retired - and to have been retired so long as to have given up all my registrations!
There has been plenty of verbal violence directed at healthcare workers all over the world including here, but for this sort of thing to happen in Germany is getting very close to home ...

 

[mjr]

I know I'm not the only one here who peels off anti-vax and conspiracy-theory posters and labels when I see them.
I saw this today on the bbc news website - a report and warning about anti-mask posters with razor blades on the back.

That old chestnut returns every time there is a disinformation campaign. I've been warned several times over several topics, kept removing them and still yet to find any razor blades. It's just as well I buy my own to shave, as I'd have a long beard before I find a free one on a poster!

If you pull and hold a high edge, and don't slide your fingers up the back (why would you?), then the risk seems minimal. Just look at the back of it as or after you remove it and not just try to fold or scrunch it, which seems to have been Layla Stokes's mistake. Or just black pen the farker, as mentioned.

And let's be realistic: it would need a thicker and better-quality sticker than most (or laminated like the one report from Cardiff) for a blade not to be obvious, especially when stuck to a rounded signpost or lamppost.

I think it is so rare that the relentless pumping of the story is itself disinformation, mostly by anti-vaxxers trying to discourage removal of their lies. I think it was shared here honestly but it's still horse shoot.

 

[Johnno260]

I have a sharpie and just colour over any anti vax flyers/stickers.

 

[C R]

Somewhat macabre, so open at your own risk, this site tracks news of antivaxxers/antimaskers/deniers who are seriously ill, dying, or dead from covid, mostly US, but some from Europe too
https://www.sorryantivaxxer.com/

 

[lazybloke]

Somewhat macabre, so open at your own risk, this site tracks news of antivaxxers/antimaskers/deniers who are seriously ill, dying, or dead from covid, mostly US, but some from Europe too
https://www.sorryantivaxxer.com/

Apparently I don't have a heart, as I've been incapable of finding any sympathy for those featured in the link.

Supporters of Luis Ewing say he's detained in intensive care "against his will" FFS.
Etc etc

 

[KnittyNorah]

Supporters of Luis Ewing say he's detained in intensive care "against his will" FFS.

Probably a good thing that I let all my registrations lapse as I'd've been be sorely tempted to say, ok unplug him and let him go off home under his own steam ...BYEEEEEEEE!!!

< that's me

 

[gzoom]

Had my first booster/third dosage today. Am not entirely sure how/why any one still wouldn't want the vaccine.

Having spent the best part of Jan-March this year watching pretty helplessness people I the pleasure to look after pass away from COVID, the vaccines have made a massive difference to outcomes.

A few weekends ago I gave Tocilizumab to three people whom had been vaccinated but still got COVID, followed by conversations with ITU and their respective families. Amazingly all of them pulled through without the need for ITU (unlike in Jan-March).

Its looking like the virus is almost certainly going to stay, but if the vaccine becomes rolled into one with the Flu jab than life can carry on as normal to a large degree.

I've some how have made this long without even needing a PCR COVID test despite almost 100% certain exposure to the virus in reasonable concentrations during the last 18 months. I *might* an asymptomatic carrier, or just not be affected badly, but I've seen enough of what this virus can do to the unvaccinated, and I'll happily have as many booster jabs from any company at any interval for the foresable future.

 

[MartinQ]

To answer the original question, they appear to be hassling kids/parents at our kids school
https://www.wirralglobe.co.uk/news/19598255.anti-vaccination-campaigners-approach-wirral-schoolkids/
I can partailly understand people not getting vaccinated, but ffs this isnt on.

 

[newfhouse]

I rode through the middle of a protest outside a primary school beside the A23 last week. There were groups of people on both sides of the road with “Stop experimenting on our kids” and similar banners. A lot of car horns were honked as they passed but I have no way of knowing if it was agreement or derision.

I pity the kids with parents that took part.

 

[MartinQ]

I rode through the middle of a protest outside a primary school beside the A23 last week. There were groups of people on both sides of the road with “Stop experimenting on our kids” and similar banners. A lot of car horns were honked as they passed but I have no way of knowing if it was agreement or derision.

I pity the kids with parents that took part.

Ive suggested ours make the v sign to show they support vaccination .
Well something like that ...