When are you British?

[Edwardoka]

Indeed. They have a similar lack of understanding of history when it comes to "Palestinian" land, preferring instead to regurgitate ill educated media outrage. Leave 'em to it.

Can open, worms everywhere!

 

[Venod]

The Irish are also a lot more County proud than we are.

What !
Even more than us Yorkshire folk?

 

[Skibird]

Sounds entirely reasonable to me but I don't think everyone in Glasgow would agree

They would when I tell them I also have some Scottish DNA

 

[BoldonLad]

When the Romans settled/invaded Britain there was no border between Scotland and England in fact they didn't exist as separate countries. You could argue that England and Scotland were created by Italians.....

According to the Museums etc along Hadrians Wall, many of the "Romans" who came here were not from what we now call "Italy", but rather from Eastern Europe, Middle East and North Africa.

Just goes to show, multi cultures is not a new idea

 

[Blue Hills]

Some people in this thread have extremely strange ideas about history, colonialism, empire, cultural identity, and the concept of nationhood.

You've touched a hell of a lot of bases there. Care to elaborate/give examples?

 

[Blue Hills]

According to the Museums etc along Hadrians Wall, many of the "Romans" who came here were not from what we now call "Italy", but rather from Eastern Europe, Middle East and North Africa.

Just goes to show, multi cultures is not a new idea

Tis true. Well remember visiting that impressively sited roman fort in the lake district. Seem to remember the garrison was mainly rumanian. Dacia to the romans i think, as in that questionable car.

 

[Blue Hills]

To italians we're all english, never sure why.
They"ll talk about the british empire (bad, roman empire good, nice white buildings) then refer to the whole lot of us as inglesi. All very odd.
Years ago saw an antoniono film.
Cut to scene of waves on a windy beach, helpful caption said

Wales, England

Camden audience a bit bemused.

 

[Joey Shabadoo]

Just watch the frowns and scowls turn to smiles when you say "Non, je ne suis pas Anglais, je suis Ecossais"

 

[pjd57]

According to the Museums etc along Hadrians Wall, many of the "Romans" who came here were not from what we now call "Italy", but rather from Eastern Europe, Middle East and North Africa.

Just goes to show, multi cultures is not a new idea

And many of the " Romans " who ventured further north to Antonines wall came from Syria.
So Syrians coming to Scotland now can say it's the land of their ancestors

 

[DRM]

We one year were on a campsite in the vendee, whilst talking with our neighbours on the next pitch one morning a woman walked past looking at us, so we both said Bonjour, she immediately and very aggressively said something I didn’t understand, however the guy I was talking to said something back, the look on her face was priceless, hiding behind a language she thought we didn’t understand, he told me she said I don’t speak effin french, I speak effin welsh, he replied with so do I!
funnily enough she walked the long way round the site to avoid us all fortnight, yes the car, caravan and everything they had was plastered in welsh flags

 

[Joey Shabadoo]

And many of the " Romans " who ventured further north to Antonines wall came from Syria.
So Syrians coming to Scotland now can say it's the land of their ancestors

Near Braco, I stumbled across an old Roman fort whilst out cycling - just a small sign beyond a fence piqued my interest. It marked the remains of a fort built by the Romans during a campaign by the Emperor Severus in 208 AD. He took 50,000 men into Scotland and marched them all the way to the Moray Firth, being harassed all the way by Picts but with no pitched battle. He took ill on the campaign, allegedly from midgie bites and died in York the next year. He was the first black Roman emperor.

Also, Pontius Pilate was Scottish.

 

[DRM]

It’s my understanding that the Romans did have foreigners in the roman army, but they were always posted nowhere near where they originated from, but after doing their service they became fully fledged romans, as did the slaves, who could become freemen, and did sometime even marry their mistresses

 

[Hacienda71]

Also, Pontius Pilate was Scottish.

How does that work then, if Scotland didn't exist as a country when he was alive.

 

[CanucksTraveller]

How does that work then, if Scotland didn't exist as a country when he was alive.

I think Joey pulled the pin and tossed that one in with a smirk on his face, just to see who might pick it up! Scamp that he is.

 

[Joey Shabadoo]

The Scottish patriot William Wallace was Welsh (William le Waleys)