What the musical issue then

[gb155]

Because one method of transport provides about a ton of metal to protect you, and the other doesn't.

Doesn't matter one bit, quite the opposite

The more metal protecting you but not others means in a vehicle you should pay much much more attention than when you have none

 

[gb155]

I think people conflate "listening to ipod" with "not looking around and not maintaining spatial awareness". Is there a connection between the two?

I can crank up the tunes on the ipod and still be fully aware of what's round me and not because I have it on quiet either tbh

 

[gb155]

[QUOTE 1817202, member: 45"]You're already cocooned in a car, so you're cut off from outside. A huge benefit of cycling, both for safety and enjoyment, is that you're open to the sounds around.[/quote]


But even with an ipod et el I have full spacial awareness tbh

 

[guitarpete247]

I don't like using headphones when out on the bike or even walking. In the car It is easier to constantly check around using the 3 mirrors together with the over shoulder checks for blind spots.
On the bike it's not quite as easy and I rely on hearing more. I do regular checks when getting ready for a manoeuvre but no where near as often as when driving. I want to be aware of what's going on around me with no distractions.
When in the car I turn the radio on or CD/Cassette and leave it. I don't change CD's (I've got a 6 CD autochanger under the passenger seat so can't).

 

[gaz]

As mikey said, people link listening to music and not being a savvy cyclist.

Are deaf people not allowed to cycle?

 

[Hip Priest]

Personally I don't like listening to music whilst cycling, but each to their own. It's nothing to do with safety, I'm just not one of these people who needs to be entertained every minute of the day.

 

[gaz]

[QUOTE 1817293, member: 45"]Deaf people have no choice.

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But they can still cycle just as safely as anyone else?

 

[lukesdad]

But they can still cycle just as safely as anyone else?

Sorry didn't hear that, music's too loud.

 

[mcshroom]

When it is windy I put my earphones in because they make it easier to hear what's going on around me. Otherwise it's just wind noise.

To be honest if you keep the sound at a sensible level and have open backed headphones you can still hear what's going on around you.

 

[gaz]

[QUOTE 1817304, member: 45"]There's added risk with not being able to hear.

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Of course, but you can work around those and your inability to hear to still be safe.

 

[mcshroom]

I wouldn't rely on audio signals alone to tell me what was going on behind me. You only get a partial picture from your ears.

 

[Bigsharn]

Makes no difference to me. I wear headphones when on the bike, and will listen to music when driving.
In both cases though, I have the sense to leave it at a reasonable volume.

 

[BentMikey]

I don't like using headphones when out on the bike or even walking. In the car It is easier to constantly check around using the 3 mirrors together with the over shoulder checks for blind spots.
On the bike it's not quite as easy and I rely on hearing more. I do regular checks when getting ready for a manoeuvre but no where near as often as when driving. I want to be aware of what's going on around me with no distractions.
When in the car I turn the radio on or CD/Cassette and leave it. I don't change CD's (I've got a 6 CD autochanger under the passenger seat so can't).

So you really mean you're not really looking enough on the bike, and you're compensating by using your hearing? What are you going to do about electric cars and other fast cyclists overtaking you? Surely it would be much safer to develop your looking skills?

 

[guitarpete247]

So you really mean you're not really looking enough on the bike, and you're compensating by using your hearing? What are you going to do about electric cars and other fast cyclists overtaking you? Surely it would be much safer to develop your looking skills?

No I'm not saying that. What I am saying is that my hearing is more important to me on the bike as I find looking in the mirrors in the car is far easier than turning and looking over either shoulder on the bike every few seconds. Plus I can quite often see something coming up behind me in my peripheral vision in the rear view mirror in the car that I might hear coming up behind my on the bike.
On the bike I know I'm more vulnerable than in the car so want to know what's going around me through all my senses, including smell.

 

[musa]

This topic draws inconclusive and no amount of statistics will justify it. Individual difference applied here as much as it is to other stuff like helmets hi viz and x y z. It works for some and not others. I'm sure we have all heard of the person who crashed because they was fiddling with the sound controls in the car, hence why they started using volume controls on the steering wheel.