WHAT A LOAD OF HORSE S!!T

[col]

No.

Can horses only crap in private? Should they lock the door, or whistle?
No, a strange outlook .



If that's where it lands, then I have no problem with it. It's far better than glass. And it's a welcome reminder that we haven't managed to tarmac over the whole of nature yet.
A wierd answer again, Its better than getting mugged too, but does that make it right?

Well, no. Because there is no one place where the entire shoot of the world belongs. Again, a strange proposition.
Really strange answer, you dont seem to know where shoot belongs?
Shouldnt it be disposed of properly like every other sensible animal owner does?

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[very-near]

We occasionally get horse riders about in my town, on the cycletracks. I encounter the “waste” much more than the horses. It hangs around for ages and never seems a priority for the council. But I agree, it could be much worse!

When I do encounter horses however, I must say they are a danger. Most recently, a very large white horse, with only a piece of rope to lead it! I don’t think it had ever seen a cyclist before. The owner did look a bit like a Gypsy (if I’m still allowed to call them that).

Another time was when I was lining up to overtake a horse rider, giving plenty of room. I checked behind me, started to accelerate and without warning, the horse began to turn right. No signals, backwards glances or road positioning, almost as if the horse knew where the rider wanted it to go. Luckily I was able to abort the overtake. I wasn’t going to pass very quickly anyway.

The rope is a guide for the animal to accept the guidance from its handler, not a way of restraining it.

I've use a doubled up length of bailing twine sling around their neck before now when ours have lost a head collar in the field to bring them in, and because they are trained, and accept my authority over them, they are happy to comply with it.

These animals are just so strong. If you had to deal with a bolshy one, you would realise that even if you had a steel cable around their necks, if they wanted to walk off with you - they will take you anywhere they want to and there is not a damned thing you can do about it.

70kg human with 2 legs on the ground V 450kg horse with 4 legs on the ground.

There is a saying in the horse world:- Ask a Mare, Tell a Gelding, and negotiate with a Stallion.

 

[col]

By properly, you don't mean properly. You mean the same as dog owners.

I mean properly. You mean the same as dog owners.

 

[col]

No, you mean the same as dog owners.

Unless you can list other animals and owners that go out in public and clean up the poop....

I mean properly, it sort of covers it. But if you want to list other animals be my guest, it would still mean properly.

 

[Arch]

When I do encounter horses however, I must say they are a danger. Most recently, a very large white horse, with only a piece of rope to lead it! I don’t think it had ever seen a cyclist before. The owner did look a bit like a Gypsy (if I’m still allowed to call them that).

Gosh. As if horses haven't been led by bits of rope for thousands of years, whatever next? Did you expect a great big steel chain?

Another time was when I was lining up to overtake a horse rider, giving plenty of room. I checked behind me, started to accelerate and without warning, the horse began to turn right. No signals, backwards glances or road positioning, almost as if the horse knew where the rider wanted it to go. Luckily I was able to abort the overtake. I wasn’t going to pass very quickly anyway.

It did. You don't tell a horse where to go by giving a hand signal or verbal command, you use reins and legs, often in a way that is indistinguishable to someone on the ground. If I had you by the mouth, I don't suppose I'd have to pull hard to tell you which way I wanted you to go.

A lack of signals for other road users is the rider's fault, not the horse's. They aren't built to stick a leg out...

Col, where do you draw the line? Who clears up after cows and sheep? Who is responsible for deer, foxes and rabbits?

 

[Wigsie]

If I had you by the mouth, I don't suppose I'd have to pull hard to tell you which way I wanted you to go.

Trying...


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rude!

 

[Black Sheep]

Interesting case in Bath Blackpool andYork where operators of horse drawn carriages have clearing up after he as part of the license. In each case there were moves to make "nappies" compulsory unless they (literally) cleaned up their act

Perhaps this is the answer?

I did see in Krakow the driver of a horse and carrage hold a bag on the end of a stick (like a fishing keep net) under the horses butt to catch its poo, quick, simple and clean.

 

[Arch]

The carriages in Bruges, a few years back, had a collecting bag thing, but attached to the carriage, not the horse, and it seemed to work ok. Although personally I'd still rather dodge a pile of poo than be breathing in particulates.

You wonder how some people today would have coped with life even 100 years ago. "oh, oh" there's poo in the road!" "Yeah, and are you gettin' on this bus or what?"

 

[col]

No doesn't. What's proper is your opinion. You haven't explained what the 'proper' way is, and how you came to your definition.

You're basing it on what is expected of dog owners. And that's a completely different matter, for the many reasons you've already been given.

How did i come to the decision of doing something properly? you really are just trying to be awkward arnt you .

Gosh. As if horses haven't been led by bits of rope for thousands of years, whatever next? Did you expect a great big steel chain?



It did. You don't tell a horse where to go by giving a hand signal or verbal command, you use reins and legs, often in a way that is indistinguishable to someone on the ground. If I had you by the mouth, I don't suppose I'd have to pull hard to tell you which way I wanted you to go.

A lack of signals for other road users is the rider's fault, not the horse's. They aren't built to stick a leg out...

Col, where do you draw the line? Who clears up after cows and sheep? Who is responsible for deer, foxes and rabbits?

Well I suppose if someone was riding deer ,fox and rabbits on the paths and roads, I would expect them to clean up after them too, or is their shoot a nice shoot too?

 

[very-near]

How did i come to the decision of doing something properly? you really are just trying to be awkward arnt you .



Well I suppose if someone was riding deer ,fox and rabbits on the paths and roads, I would expect them to clean up after them too, or is their shoot a nice shoot too?

They have the right to roam anyway. I've had to dodge sheep shoot on the roads many a time in the Forest of Dean when riding through there.

 

[Bman]

Gosh. As if horses haven't been led by bits of rope for thousands of years, whatever next? Did you expect a great big steel chain?

No, but I did expect them to be a little more equipped for the "highway" than just a rope. (/me visualises the picture in the HC)

It did. You don't tell a horse where to go by giving a hand signal or verbal command, you use reins and legs, often in a way that is indistinguishable to someone on the ground. If I had you by the mouth, I don't suppose I'd have to pull hard to tell you which way I wanted you to go.

A lack of signals for other road users is the rider's fault, not the horse's. They aren't built to stick a leg out...

Entirely. Horses are pretty magnificient animals, but can be a little intimidating for other road users. Especially if they dont seem under control.

Imagining a horse using its legs to signal made me laugh. Especially the "slowing down" signal

 

[davidaw]

There is a road not far from where I live that during dry periods becomes worse than a dirty Pubs toilet= It stinks. I would challenge anyone to avoid all the horse poo on that road after a week of no rain (flying not allowed).

After a while, the whole road changes to a brown shade with dark brown tracks.

Unfortunately, avoiding that road means using a dual-carriageway that is generally seen as a raceway between roundabout and traffic lights.

Live and let live, fine. However, a road should never be allowed to be turned in to such a mess.

 

[trudilou]

I have to avoid all the horse poo on my cycle into work, it doesn't bother me too much - I mind the flies it attracts more! But what I mind even more than that are the idiots wizzing along the cycle track on their motorbikes. Will report it to the police next time I see it, not that they're likely to do anything...