5 days of sensible eating a week, plus 2 days of eating what you like?Am contemplating my own variation of the 'fast' diet but not sure yet whether to do it or not, will report back
That's always been my method for a healthy lifestyle5 days of sensible eating a week, plus 2 days of eating what you like?
It'll definitely catch on, but it will never work!
¿Qué?No, am thinking of a 250 calorie defecit 5 days per week and a 1000 defecit just 2 days per week, similar total defecit as I have been on but it means I can eat fairly well for 5 of the days
How is spending two days starving yourself into a larger deficit better than much smaller daily deficits?¿Qué?
How is depriving yourself 7 days a week better than doing it just twice!
(If you are only after the weight-loss side-effects then your system might work, but a big calorie restriction twice a week has powerful metabolic effects which are well worth keeping.)
Well I'm supposedly on a 500 per day defecit now, so 250 is better for those 5 days¿Qué?
How is depriving yourself 7 days a week better than doing it just twice!
(If you are only after the weight-loss side-effects then your system might work, but a big calorie restriction twice a week has powerful metabolic effects which are well worth keeping.)
How could I be so daft as to take my personal knowledge of potsy, his habits, strengths and weaknesses from having ridden thousands of miles with him over some of the toughest hills in northern England, and then suggested such a crazy thing!
So you don't know. As I thoughtHow could I be so daft as to take my personal knowledge of potsy, his habits, strengths and weaknesses from having ridden thousands of miles with him over some of the toughest hills in northern England, and then suggested such a crazy thing!
As for the stupid fad diet. If only it was actually based on some scientific research ...
- Carlson AJ; Hoelzel, F. Department of Physiology, University of Chicago, US. ‘Apparent prolongation of the life span of rats by intermittent fasting’. Journal of Nutrition, 1945. www.jn.nutrition.org/content/31/3/363.full.pdf
- Bergamini E, Cavallini G, Donati A, Gori Z, Pisa, Italy. ‘The role of autophagy in aging: its essential part in the anti-aging mechanism of caloric restriction’. Annals of the New York Academy of Science, October 2007
- Varady, KA; Surabhi Bhutani; Church EC; Kempel, M. ‘Short-term modified alternate-day fasting: a novel dietary strategy for weight loss and cardio-protection in obese adults.’. American Journal of Clinical Nutrition, November 2009 & Klempel MC, Kroeger CM, Varady KA. ‘Alternate day fasting (ADF) with a high-fat diet produces similar weight loss and cardio-protection as ADF with a low-fat diet.’ Metabolism. January 2013; 62(1):137-43
- M N Harvie et al. Genesis Prevention Centre, University Hospital of South Manchester NHS Foundation Trust, UK. ‘Intermittent, low-carbohydrate diets more successful than standard dieting; possible intervention for breast cancer prevention’. Presentation at the CTRC-AACR San Antonio Breast Cancer Symposium, December 2011. www.aacr.org/home/public--media /aacr-press-releases.aspx?d=2649
- Hatori, M; Vollmers, C; Zarrinpar, A; DiTacchio, L et al. Salk Institute for Biological Studies, La Jolla, CA, US. ‘Time-Restricted Feeding without Reducing Caloric Intake Prevents Metabolic Diseases in Mice Fed a High-Fat Diet’. Cell Metabolism, 2012
- Halagappa VK, Guo Z, Pearson M, Matsuoka Y, Cutler RG, Laferla FM, Mattson MP, National Institute on Ageing, Baltimore, MD, US. ‘Intermittent fasting and caloric restriction ameliorate age-related behavioral deficits in the triple-transgenic mouse model of Alzheimer’s disease’. Neurobiology of Disease, April 2007
- Nils Halberg, Morten Henriksen, Nathalie Söderhamn, Bente Stallknecht, Thorkil Ploug, Peter Schjerling and Flemming Dela. Department of Muscle Research Centre, The Panum Institute, University of Copenhagen, Denmark. ‘Effect of intermittent fasting and refeeding on insulin action in healthy men’. Journal of Applied Physiology, December 2005
- Raffaghello L, Lee C, Safdie FM, Wei M, Madia F, Bianchi G, Longo VD. Andrus Gerontology Center, Department of Biological Sciences and Norris Cancer Center, University of Southern California, LA, CA, US. ‘Starvation-dependent differential stress resistance protects normal but not cancer cells against high-dose chemotherapy’. Proceedings of the National Academy of sciences of the United States of America, June 2008
- Safdie F; Dorff T; Longo V et al. University of Southern California. ‘Fasting and Cancer Treatment in Humans’, Aging 2009
- Michelle N. Harvie et al. Genesis Prevention Centre, University Hospital of South Manchester NHS Foundation Trust, UK. ‘The effects of intermittent or continuous energy restriction on weight loss and metabolic disease risk markers: a randomised trial in young overweight women’ International Journal of Obesity (London), May 2011
- Klempel MC, Bhutani S, Fitzgibbon M, Freels S, Varady KA. Department of Kinesiology and Nutrition, University of Illinois at Chicago, IL, US. ‘Dietary and physical activity adaptations to alternate day modified fasting: implications for optimal weight loss’. Nutrition Journal, September 2010
- Mann, T; Tomiyama, A. J; Westling, E; Lew, A; Samuels, B; Chatman, J. UCLA. ‘Medicare’s search for effective obesity treatments: Diets are not the answer’. American Psychologist, April 2007
- Van Proeyen K, Szlufcik K, Nielens H, Pelgrim K, Deldicque L, Hesselink M, Van Veldhoven PP, Hespel P. Research Centre for Exercise and Health, Department of Biomedical Kinesiology, Leuven, Belgium. ‘Training in the fasted state improves glucose tolerance during fat-rich diet’. Journal of Physiology, November 2010
- Klempel MC, Bhutani S, Fitzgibbon M, Freels S, Varady KA. Department of Kinesiology and Nutrition, University of Illinois at Chicago, IL, US (2010) ‘Dietary and physical activity adaptations to alternate day modified fasting: implications for optimal weight loss’. Nutrition Journal, September 2010
- Klempel MC, Bhutani S, Fitzgibbon M, Freels S, Varady KA. Department of Kinesiology and Nutrition, University of Illinois at Chicago, IL, US. ‘Dietary and physical activity adaptations to alternate day modified fasting: implications for optimal weight loss’. Nutrition Journal, September 2010
- Kirkendall DT, Leiper JB, Bartagi Z, Dvorak J, Zerguini Y. FIFA Medical Assessment and Research Centre, Schulthess Clinic, Zurich, Switzerland. ‘The influence of Ramadan on physical performance measures in young Muslim footballers’. Journal of Sports Science, December 2008
- Van Proeyen K, Szlufcik K, Nielens H, Ramaekers M, Hespel P. Research Centre for Exercise and Health, Department of Biomedical Kinesiology, Leuven, Belgium. ‘Beneficial metabolic adaptations due to endurance exercise training in the fasted state’. Journal of Applied Physiology, January 2011
- Harber MP, Konopka AR, Jemiolo B, Trappe SW, Trappe TA, Reidy PT. Human Performance Laboratory, Ball State University, Muncie, IN, US. ‘Muscle protein synthesis and gene expression during recovery from aerobic exercise in the fasted and fed states’. American Journal of Physiology, November 2010
- Deldicque L, De Bock K, Maris M, Ramaekers M, Nielens H, Francaux M, Hespel P. Department of Biomedical Kinesiology, Leuven, Belgium. ‘Increased p70s6k phosphorylation during intake of a protein-carbohydrate drink following resistance exercise in the fasted state’. European Journal of Applied Physiology, March 2010
- Van Proeyen K, Szlufcik K, Nielens H, Pelgrim K, Deldicque L, Hesselink M, Van Veldhoven PP, Hespel P. Research Centre for Exercise and Health, Department of Biomedical Kinesiology, Leuven, Belgium. ‘Training in the fasted state improves glucose tolerance during fat-rich diet’. Journal of Physiology, November 2010
- Stannard SR, Buckley AJ, Edge JA, Thompson MW. Institute of Food Nutrition and Human Health, Massey University, New Zealand. ‘Adaptations to skeletal muscle with endurance exercise training in the acutely fed versus overnight-fasted state’. Journal of Science and Medicine in Sport, July 2010
- Klempel MC, Bhutani S, Fitzgibbon M, Freels S, Varady KA. Department of Kinesiology and Nutrition, University of Illinois at Chicago, IL, US. ‘Dietary and physical activity adaptations to alternate day modified fasting: implications for optimal weight loss’. Nutrition Journal, September 2010
- Heilbronn LK, Smith SR, Martin CK, Anton SD, Ravussin E. Pennington Biomedical Research Center, Baton Rouge, LA, US. ‘Alternate-day fasting in non-obese subjects: effects on body weight, body composition, and energy metabolism’. American Journal of Clinical Nutrition, January 2005
- Webber J, Macdonald IA. Department of Physiology and Pharmacology, University of Nottingham Medical School, UK. ‘The cardiovascular, metabolic and hormonal changes accompanying acute starvation in men and women’. British Journal of Nutrition. March 1994
(There may be a few duplicated references in there - I can't be bothered to wade through them checking!)
I am safe in the knowledge that I know what I know. This knowledge includes the fact that many hundreds of people on CycleChat like me, and like what I post on the forum. That you are not one of them. And that this will not change.
Excellent avoidance of a question Colin. You're right, I don't like you and many others,probably never will.
That's a shame
I don't have a band of followers,nor do I particularly care to build one. You are correct,not 1 minute of sleep will be lost over you.
If you get this worked up at every civilized question asked it probably won't be long.
The ironyd you adieu, young sir!
PS Keep up those studies - you might learn something.
