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presta

Guru
They are vastly superior to usb-micro though.
They're in serious need of something that's vastly superior to USB-C. Making one that mates securely would be a start, and then get rid of all the duplicate connections so there's room more reliable contacts.
 

newts

Veteran
Location
Isca Dumnoniorum
They're in serious need of something that's vastly superior to USB-C. Making one that mates securely would be a start, and then get rid of all the duplicate connections so there's room more reliable contacts.

That's the whole point of USB C, it's far more reliable than USB A & micro USB. Symmetry means it's easier to insert, charging & Data speeds are much faster than earlier versions.
 

presta

Guru
That's the whole point of USB C, it's far more reliable than USB A & micro USB. Symmetry means it's easier to insert, charging & Data speeds are much faster than earlier versions.
It isn't reliable though, the plug waggles so much that connection breaks every time you nudge the cable.
 

Alex321

Guru
Location
South Wales
It isn't reliable though, the plug waggles so much that connection breaks every time you nudge the cable.

That is not normally the case. It suggest you have a badly worn cable or port. Or one which was not built properly to spec.

While USB-micro would be like that after just a few month (or even sometimes weeks) of use, I have never found that an issue with USB-C in less than 18 months, usually more.
 

ColinJ

Puzzle game procrastinator!
It isn't reliable though, the plug waggles so much that connection breaks every time you nudge the cable.

That is not normally the case. It suggest you have a badly worn cable or port. Or one which was not built properly to spec.
I have a charger with a USB-C output that suffers from that problem. It isn't the cable because the devices that I am charging connect reliably to it no matter which end of the cable is plugged into the device. I ended up inserting a sliver of thin plastic along with the plug at the charger output to wedge the plug securely in place.
 

presta

Guru
Perhaps try reading. Not that is not all. It is the MINIMUM I have seen. I also have some which I have been using for several years without issue.
It's not much for a minimum either, is it. A USB connector is something that appears on expensive electronic equipment, I expect that sort of thing to last longer than 18 months, even as a minimum.
 

Alex321

Guru
Location
South Wales
It's not much for a minimum either, is it. A USB connector is something that appears on expensive electronic equipment, I expect that sort of thing to last longer than 18 months, even as a minimum.

So would I, on expensive equipment.

It also appears on much cheaper equipment.

It is still orders of magnitude better than the old micro-usb, and is also now so standard that replacement cables etc are cheap and easy to come by when you DO need them.
 

the_mikey

Legendary Member
Companies are trying to get away from supplying chargers with everything these days.

There was a time when everything would come with a standard USB power supply , but that stopped a few years ago when it was assumed we must be filled to our gills with USB supplies, that isn't the case with USB C, and additionally, USB C is not always done correctly so many USB C devices won't charge with USB C supplies, often a manufacturer simply redesigned the charging port to be USB C without adding the electronics to make USB C fully compatible, which means you have to revert to an old fashioned USB A supply to charge a USB C device. I have to say I only own one usb C charger that came with a phone I bought a couple of years ago, it hasn't revolutionised my world yet.
 

Ming the Merciless

There is no mercy
Location
Inside my skull
With usb-c the spring contacts are in the lead rather than the equipment. Thus when they fail you replace the much cheaper lead not the connector soldered to the motherboard of your expensive equipment. Older usb it was other way round. Once the springs went you were pretty much stuck with it.
 

Alex321

Guru
Location
South Wales
So you want two different standards, one for cheap equipment and another for the expensive stuff?

That is true of everything that is available in both expensive and cheap versions.

The cheaper equipment is usually of lower standard than the expensive versions.

On decent equipment, you can expect the port to be well built, and it will last for a good while - I haven't actually had one fail on me yet. The failures I have had have all been in the cables, not the ports in the devices - which again was not always true with usb-micro.
 

si_c

Guru
Location
Wirral
On decent equipment, you can expect the port to be well built, and it will last for a good while - I haven't actually had one fail on me yet. The failures I have had have all been in the cables, not the ports in the devices - which again was not always true with usb-micro.

I've been using USB-C for many years for charging all sorts of devices, laptops, PC, phones etc. Not had any problems with any of the connectors on device or cable despite many hundreds of insert remove cycles. I've had a few cables fail but only due to the cable breaking and shorting at the end by the connector - a common fault on any cable with a plug attached where bending is common. One of my pairs of headphones is doing the same so I need to remove and solder a new cable in at some point.
 
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