useing gears

[Tollers]

The guy seems to be going for the single experience, but with the handy option of changing to 20 different ratios He just invented the Multiple Ratio Single Speed or MRSS as i'll be calling it when i file the patent tomorrow!

 

[Rouge Penguin]

I only use one gear

BTW, deliberately turning a big gear is called resistance training and is widely employed by time triallists.

Thats fine, but he's not turning the biggest gear is he?

 

[reacher]

Thats fine, but he's not turning the biggest gear is he?

i'm new to this so i dont realy know , but my brother out in Australia who is a cyclist said exactly the same ,
its lost on me as to why he do's this , since he rides dura ace set up as well , this is not a cheap bike he rides its a nice bit of kit , seems a waste of gears to me ,
can some one explain to me ,
if he stays in these gears and another guy used the big chain ring and moved to the 12 or 13 or 14 who would be the quickest ?
also if he use's a cadence say of around 85 would a big chain ring with higher cadence beat him as long as you could move it to a bigger gear on the back cassette ? which would have to be ?
i think i'v worded this correctly ,

 

[Scoosh]

A previous CC member would be giving you all sorts of power calculations by now

but it can be viewed in a simple manner.

Two people start to walk up stairs/hill, with one taking (lots of) small steps, while the other takes fewer big steps.

If both arrive at the top at the same time, I think I am right in saying that they will have used the same amount of energy and have had the same power output.

The 'lots of small steps' is the equivalent of spinning a lower gear/higher cadence.
Equally, the 'fewer big steps' is the higher gear/slower cadence (aka 'grinding').

Most people (cyclists

) use the smaller steps way of getting up stairs/hill but the big step route is the way to build bigger muscles.

It's the same as going to a gym and doing lots of reps with a small weight, against fewer reps with bigger weights - different results.

 

[I am Spartacus]

he cant be , which is strange , as he knows his stuff , he can tell me every thing about the technical side of bikes , what to buy and why ,
my brother said the same , what a strange way to ride ,
also i'v tried these setings on the spin bikes and i agree they just hammer your joints rather than build fitness ,
its an impressive work out he do's though , i cant get near it , he is ripped to hell as well , he must have zero body fat , as in nothing at all ,
the guy looks like a cartoon freak he is so cut up ,
this is the guy who i'm going to race by the way ,
or maybe just follow him round i reckon after seeing him on a spin bike this last few weeks he has improved tremendously

I just so love posts like these...
being ripped has balls nothing to do with being good on a bike
mention races? why not mention a few results if he is worth adoring him like obviously you do (nowt wrong with that actually bud)
and why you bothering? you write as though you are beaten already

riding ( racing?) on the 39 .... give me strength

 

[reacher]

I just so love posts like these...
being ripped has balls nothing to do with being good on a bike
mention races? why not mention a few results if he is worth adoring him like obviously you do (nowt wrong with that actually bud)
and why you bothering? you write as though you are beaten already

riding ( racing?) on the 39 .... give me strength

what a strange reply ,
what do you mean adore him ?
i train in a gym , i see a guy ripped to shreds with zero fat sat on a spin bike turning a leval thats so far ahead of any one else , for sure i'm interested in how he is doing it ,
whats wrong with that ,
why am i bothering ?
personally i dont think for one minute i can beat him , i'm always up for a challenge , but thinking that i can beat some one who turns an obvious massive leval on a spin bike and thinking that he will only do 18 mph on the road is totally stupid , the guy has power thats for sure , i only have to watch him to see that ,
and actually being ripped has everything to do with being good on a bike , if your a cyclist , for him , thats why he is so good i expect , fat dont turn wheels bud

i'l let you know how good he is in around 6 or 8 weeks time when i follow him home , i wont beat him but i will be fast thats for sure , he has been training me on the spin bikes , i thought i was training hard untill i did some sessions with him , differant planet entirely ,
i did'nt think it was possible to train that hard at my age , real eye opener for me ,

 

[JNR]

I just so love posts like these...
being ripped has balls nothing to do with being good on a bike
mention races? why not mention a few results if he is worth adoring him like obviously you do (nowt wrong with that actually bud)
and why you bothering? you write as though you are beaten already

riding ( racing?) on the 39 .... give me strength

What's wrong with riding on a 39? Many members of my cycling club, including me, spend lots of time on a 34 and we get round the roads just fine...

 

[Chris S]

I learned to ride with a Sturmey Archer 3-speed and now spend almost all my time in the equivalent 3 gears on my MTB.

I occasionally drop down to the big rear cog for steeper hills but I never use the small front cog. I occasionally go on the large front cog going downhill but that's it.

As an earlier poster said, a lot of gears on a mulit-speed are either redundant or close duplicates.

 

[reacher]

i dont understand that at all , if the gears are redundant then why are they on their ?
surely the use of gears is partly what raceing is all about ,
correct me if i'm wrong but as i see it if he is on the 39 and i'm on the 53 same cadence then i'm going to go past him ?

 

[fossyant]

Sounds like the lad has little idea about gears.

Expecially running DA on a 10 speed like that = expensive stupidity.

 

[JNR]

i dont understand that at all , if the gears are redundant then why are they on their ?
surely the use of gears is partly what raceing is all about ,
correct me if i'm wrong but as i see it if he is on the 39 and i'm on the 53 same cadence then i'm going to go past him ?

No, because if he is on a really small cog at the back and you are on your biggest (which you shouldn't be) then he will be going faster than you. That is where the gears ratios cross over. I still can't get my head around the cogs I'm 'not meant to use'...why are they there in the first place?

 

[I am Spartacus]

What's wrong with riding on a 39? Many members of my cycling club, including me, spend lots of time on a 34 and we get round the roads just fine...

Nothing 'wrong' with it... but laddo mentioned racing.... best get used to the big ring, thats all... you dont have time to faff about with front changes... and as the weather improves from cold and nasty, so should your training change from spinnin about on the 39 to some decent leg work... I am not really talking about Sunday club runs

 

[Rouge Penguin]

Because if you're on the small cog up front, you use the top half of the cassette. If you're on the big cog, you use the bottom half. The other way round causes wear and stress on the chain/cassette due to the angle.

Simples.

 

[Rouge Penguin]

That was for JNR

 

[reacher]

No, because if he is on a really small cog at the back and you are on your biggest (which you shouldn't be) then he will be going faster than you. That is where the gears ratios cross over. I still can't get my head around the cogs I'm 'not meant to use'...why are they there in the first place?

hang about ,
if he is on a 39 x 11 and i'm on a 53 x 11 , should'nt i be faster ?