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<Tommy>

<Tommy>

Illegitimi non carborundum
Location
Camden, London
Whorty said:
Are you willing to put money on that? :becool: I'll happily take a wager that I will complete the 100 mile DD course if you're happy to lose some cash :popcorn:

My SS turns up on Friday, and so long as I haven't found one of the many scams on ebay then I could be ready to go.

Now, I'm 50/50 at the moment on whether to do the DD on the SS, and was going to make the decision after a few test rides in the real world, but .... :whistle:

Edit : if i can do it having an asthma attack and no lungs, how hard can it really be on a SS :biggrin:
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Couple of hundred quid minimum? You can name the price. If I win I’ll give my stake to charity. Completing doesn’t just mean limping over the line though I’m afraid mate. It means doing both the elbow and the staircase, and not getting off the bike on any hill.
 
Randyberlin

Randyberlin

Guru
Location
Sitka, Alaska
TurboTommy said:
Couple of hundred quid minimum? You can name the price. If I win I’ll give my stake to charity. Completing doesn’t just mean limping over the line though I’m afraid mate. It means doing both the elbow and the staircase, and not getting off the bike on any hill.
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I tested my DD setup yesterday and going up the steepest (paved) hill in Sitka in 34/34 it seems ridiculous to not just get off and walk.
I also received my package with a Sram Red component yesterday. An 11 speed red chain as recommend by @BILL S.
 
Whorty

Whorty

Gets free watts from the Atom ;)
Location
Wiltshire
TurboTommy said:
Couple of hundred quid minimum? You can name the price. If I win I’ll give my stake to charity. Completing doesn’t just mean limping over the line though I’m afraid mate. It means doing both the elbow and the staircase, and not getting off the bike on any hill.
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I can't do those two hills on a geared bike so I wouldn't even pretend I could do them on a SS. So of course I'll be getting off the SS on hills that are too steep for the gearing (I've already said I will) and that I only signed up to the shorter course. Don't go changing the rules now :tongue: You said I wouldn't complete the DD on a SS ... and I will if I have to. It may not be pretty or speedy, and I will have to walk at times, but I can complete the same DD course that I have signed up for.
 
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<Tommy>

<Tommy>

Illegitimi non carborundum
Location
Camden, London
Whorty said:
I can't do those two hills on a geared bike so I wouldn't even pretend I could do them on a SS. So of course I'll be getting off the SS on hills that are too steep for the gearing (I've already said I will) and that I only signed up to the shorter course. Don't go changing the rules now :tongue: You said I wouldn't complete the DD on a SS ... and I will if I have to. It may not be pretty or speedy, and I will have to walk at times, but I can complete the same DD course that I have signed up for.
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Sorry bud. I’m not changing the rules. I’m establishing the rules.

Stephen Hawking, in his current state, could get around the course if there’s no conditions....it’s both hills. No walking. I didn’t read the part where you said you were going to walk and not attempt both the hills. Why would anyone take a bet where you could technically walk the entire (shorter) course and still claim the win... I don’t even really get the point of doing it on a SS now to be honest. Wouldn’t it be more of a challenge for you to take a geared bike and actually try and get up the hills??

I bet you can’t do it in a pair of high heels. How about that? ^_^
 
Whorty

Whorty

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Location
Wiltshire
TurboTommy said:
Sorry bud. I’m not changing the rules. I’m establishing the rules.

Stephen Hawking, in his current state, could get around the course if there’s no conditions....it’s both hills. No walking. I didn’t read the part where you said you were going to walk and not attempt both the hills. Why would anyone take a bet where you could technically walk the entire (shorter) course and still claim the win... I don’t even really get the point of doing it on a SS now to be honest. Wouldn’t it be more of a challenge for you to take a geared bike and actually try and get up the hills??

I bet you can’t do it in a pair of high heels. How about that? ^_^
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Looks like there can't be a bet then, as I'd already said that I'd signed up to do the shorter course with the others, would walking up hills if the gearing stopped me getting up and i'll do it on the SS if the local practice runs don't go too badly.

Reason for attempting it on the DD is I guess the same reason as others have for attempting things that few people have done before ..... because it's a challenge. I could challenge myself to beat last year's time (but it's a different route so that wouldn't work). Or I could challenge myself to get around without walking the hills (I'm a realist and don't believe I can get up the 20%+ gradients without walking even on a geared bike - not only would I fail this challenge, but I'd be failing something many others on the day would be succeeding in). Or I could get a recumbent bike and do it on that (mmmm, tempting for next year!). But instead I've gone with the possibility of the SS.

The calculations and logic are pretty sound. The gearing of 42/16 should give me an average speed of 14.5 mph at cadence of 70 and 12.4 mph at cadence of 60. I'll be grinding up hills and freewheeling down the other side so I should be able to hit an average cadence of 60 I would think.

Ride starts at 8am and i aim to finish by 5 like last year - with 1 hour set aside for rests, this requires an average of 12.5 mph over the moving day - not too unrealistic.

As the day goes on I will get tired and the cadence will drop so I need to use the rests well. Last year we had that long stop at the cafe for about 30+ mins, this year I won't do that but instead use that time for shorter snack breaks of 10 minutes or so. This should help the legs stay warm and give me more frequent stops.

Doesn't logic on paper look so simple :biggrin: But it is this logic why I know I can complete the course on a SS if that's what I decide to do :okay:

I still expect to finish last, and have the company of the broom wagon for most of the course, but think about the feeling of crossing the line having ridden all that way in just one gear :hyper:
 
Randyberlin

Randyberlin

Guru
Location
Sitka, Alaska
Whorty said:
Looks like there can't be a bet then, as I'd already said that I'd signed up to do the shorter course with the others, would walking up hills if the gearing stopped me getting up and i'll do it on the SS if the local practice runs don't go too badly.

Reason for attempting it on the DD is I guess the same reason as others have for attempting things that few people have done before ..... because it's a challenge. I could challenge myself to beat last year's time (but it's a different route so that wouldn't work). Or I could challenge myself to get around without walking the hills (I'm a realist and don't believe I can get up the 20%+ gradients without walking even on a geared bike - not only would I fail this challenge, but I'd be failing something many others on the day would be succeeding in). Or I could get a recumbent bike and do it on that (mmmm, tempting for next year!). But instead I've gone with the possibility of the SS.

The calculations and logic are pretty sound. The gearing of 42/16 should give me an average speed of 14.5 mph at cadence of 70 and 12.4 mph at cadence of 60. I'll be grinding up hills and freewheeling down the other side so I should be able to hit an average cadence of 60 I would think.

Ride starts at 8am and i aim to finish by 5 like last year - with 1 hour set aside for rests, this requires an average of 12.5 mph over the moving day - not too unrealistic.

As the day goes on I will get tired and the cadence will drop so I need to use the rests well. Last year we had that long stop at the cafe for about 30+ mins, this year I won't do that but instead use that time for shorter snack breaks of 10 minutes or so. This should help the legs stay warm and give me more frequent stops.

Doesn't logic on paper look so simple :biggrin: But it is this logic why I know I can complete the course on a SS if that's what I decide to do :okay:

I still expect to finish last, and have the company of the broom wagon for most of the course, but think about the feeling of crossing the line having ridden all that way in just one gear :hyper:
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I hit like because I Like your gumption. I definitely do not want to try it myself.
 
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<Tommy>

<Tommy>

Illegitimi non carborundum
Location
Camden, London
Whorty said:
Looks like there can't be a bet then, as I'd already said that I'd signed up to do the shorter course with the others, would walking up hills if the gearing stopped me getting up and i'll do it on the SS if the local practice runs don't go too badly.

Reason for attempting it on the DD is I guess the same reason as others have for attempting things that few people have done before ..... because it's a challenge. I could challenge myself to beat last year's time (but it's a different route so that wouldn't work). Or I could challenge myself to get around without walking the hills (I'm a realist and don't believe I can get up the 20%+ gradients without walking even on a geared bike - not only would I fail this challenge, but I'd be failing something many others on the day would be succeeding in). Or I could get a recumbent bike and do it on that (mmmm, tempting for next year!). But instead I've gone with the possibility of the SS.

The calculations and logic are pretty sound. The gearing of 42/16 should give me an average speed of 14.5 mph at cadence of 70 and 12.4 mph at cadence of 60. I'll be grinding up hills and freewheeling down the other side so I should be able to hit an average cadence of 60 I would think.

Ride starts at 8am and i aim to finish by 5 like last year - with 1 hour set aside for rests, this requires an average of 12.5 mph over the moving day - not too unrealistic.

As the day goes on I will get tired and the cadence will drop so I need to use the rests well. Last year we had that long stop at the cafe for about 30+ mins, this year I won't do that but instead use that time for shorter snack breaks of 10 minutes or so. This should help the legs stay warm and give me more frequent stops.

Doesn't logic on paper look so simple :biggrin: But it is this logic why I know I can complete the course on a SS if that's what I decide to do :okay:

I still expect to finish last, and have the company of the broom wagon for most of the course, but think about the feeling of crossing the line having ridden all that way in just one gear :hyper:
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Whorty I don’t really get it bud but maybe that’s just me. My advice would be keep trying to get up the hill and one day you will. Maybe there’s a metaphor for my outlook on life in there somewhere...
 
Bored Man

Bored Man

Upstanding Member
Location
Arrochar
bridgy said:
Payment for the jerseys received so far from:
- @Aleman
- @rob01792
- @BILL S
- @Randyberlin

Everyone else except for @Norry1 has PM'd me for bank details so I assume those are on their way! I'm going to post up the order form (hopefully) one last time - please check and let me know ASAP if size or name for the back is wrong in any way before I place the order (no need to reply if it looks OK):

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Should have got my payment last night Paul. Let me know if there’s a problem please.

Cheers

Jim
 
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