trust your base training

[Rob3rt]

Yes When your average time starts to fall and the same for weight training. There you go, you have learnt something today... isn't the internet wonderful?

Incorrect

 

[brand]

Incorrect

Not much of a counter argument! Bit week on specifics. Do enlighten me. As 2 para suggests.

 

[brand]

brand and Rob3rt sitting in a tree ...

Sorry mate absolutely no idea what you mean, enlightenment me.

 

[uclown2002]

My base has been 400 miles in the last week. All below threshold and a long way below. 100m Friday and 100m today.
Sorry for sounding garish as some guys have pointed out.
I am a git

Okay I am an old fart but that sounds like over training. Clearly a great Way to lose lard but....?

Why would he be overtraining?

 

[Joshua Plumtree]

Don't you just love it when people
come on here and say things like - "you're wrong there fella!" But then decide not to tell us why!

As Bob Dylan said (showing my age now), maybe they're: "trying to hide something they don't know to begin with"

 

[Rob3rt]

I would think not. But he seems nice enough. Teach someone something rob. That's what this thread started out as in the first place before the banana throwing contest started

Did it? If that is the case what exactly were you trying to teach us? If there was anything of value in there it was lost in translation due to the stylistic choice of "patronising monologue".

Not much of a counter argument! Bit week on specifics. Do enlighten me. As 2 para suggests.

It wasn't meant to be a counter argument, it was a declaration that you were incorrect.

Your "definition" of overtraining was simply one potential "symptom" of overtraining. A symptom which would be attributed to one of many things.

Over training is not something which occurs when someone does an arbitrary number of miles, such as you suggest with your assessment that "2para" sounds like he is overtraining because of his mileage. It occurs when your workload exceeds your ability to recover, and not in the short term, in the medium to long term! In the short term, you are over reaching and this is desirable and indeed a requirement in order to improve!

 

[brand]

You simply said your "wrong" with out expanding on why. That is basically saying I am right and and I don't need to back it up. Hopefully you won't take this badly but that is rather grandiose view of yourself.
grandiose is my word for the day

 

[Rob3rt]

[Rob3rt, post: 3058874, member: 9127"]Did it? If that is the case what exactly were you trying to teach us? If there was anything of value in there it was lost in translation due to the stylistic choice of "patronising monologue".



It wasn't meant to be a counter argument, it was a declaration that you were incorrect.

Your "definition" of overtraining was simply one potential "symptom" of overtraining. A symptom which would be attributed to one of many things.

Over training is not something which occurs when someone does an arbitrary number of miles, such as you suggest with your assessment that "2para" sounds like he is overtraining because of his mileage. It occurs when your workload exceeds your ability to recover, and not in the short term, in the medium to long term! In the short term, you are over reaching and this is desirable and indeed a requirement in order to improve![/Qbadly]

You simply said your "wrong" with out expanding on why. That is basically saying I am right and and I don't need to back it up. Hopefully you won't take this badly but that is rather grandiose view of yourself.
grandiose is my word for the day!

It is absolutely the case that I did not feel that I needed to "back it up", the reason being that the definition of overtraining and over reaching is well known and if not known, it is adequately accessible in order for any interested party to look it up within a minute or two (in probably less time than it would take for me to explain) and realise for themselves why your post was incorrect.

For reference, "2para"'s workload would equate to about 900 training stress score (TSS) with an intensity factor (IF) of about 0.6, if his description of the activity is indeed representative of what he was actually doing.

 

[Rob3rt]

brand and Rob3rt, sittin' in a tree
K-I-S-S-I-N-G
First comes love, then comes marriage
then comes baby with a baby carriage

You two make a perfect couple, bad-temperedly bickering away about overtraining and who's got the biggest legs. Keep it up, it's hilarious.

Where did the biggest legs come into it?

 

[vickster]

brand and Rob3rt, sittin' in a tree
K-I-S-S-I-N-G
First comes love, then comes marriage
then comes baby with a baby carriage

You two make a perfect couple, bad-temperedly bickering away about overtraining and who's got the biggest legs. Keep it up, it's hilarious.

Not sure it's about leg sizes....well not the first two anyhow!

 

[totallyfixed]

I never come into HF&T, and cannot for the life of me begin to explain why I did this time. After this [I had to read the whole thread but the whole surreal experience has left me feeling like I fell down a rabbit hole] the only words that spring to mind are "mad as a box of frogs". If anyone was being serious on here I would think about booking a medical appointment. Soon.

 

[brand]

brand and Rob3rt, sittin' in a tree
K-I-S-S-I-N-G
First comes love, then comes marriage
then comes baby with a baby carriage

You two make a perfect couple, bad-temperedly bickering away about overtraining and who's got the biggest legs. Keep it up, it's hilarious.

Just gave you a like.
I should stress that I am definitely not overtraining as making sure I remain under 8 miles an hours allows me to visit a multitude of pubs on a 60 mile ride while enjoying the view. Although it does become a bit blurred towards the end (joking mister pig)
On the other hand I probably have got more muscular legs than Rob3rt but I will keep that to myself!!!

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[Rob3rt]

Just gave you a like.
I should stress that I am definitely not overtraining as making sure I remain under 8 miles an hours allows me to visit a multitude of pubs on a 60 mile ride while enjoying the view. Although it does become a bit blurred towards the end (joking mister pig)
On the other hand I probably have got more muscular legs than Rob3rt but I will keep that to myself!!!

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You probably do, it is no secret I have skinny legs!

 

[brand]

It is absolutely the case that I did not feel that I needed to "back it up", the reason being that the definition of overtraining and over reaching is well known and if not known, it is adequately accessible in order for any interested party to look it up within a minute or two (in probably less time than it would take for me to explain) and realise for themselves why your post was incorrect.

For reference, "2para"'s workload would equate to about 900 training stress score (TSS) with an intensity factor (IF) of about 0.6, if his description of the activity is indeed representative of what he was actually doing.

Narh you read to many books. Your overtraining when you are not recovering each day and your times start to go down day after day. You also you start to feel ruff even to the extent that you don't fancy a beer. Obviously the latter is gross overtraining. Overtraining of course isn't always too many miles you could reduce miles and cycle faster and still end up overtraining. Stop reading books and feel your body but not while watching porn!!!!
Reading to many books is also overtraining but in this case your brain.

 

[50000tears]

Narh you read to many books. Your overtraining when you are not recovering each day and your times start to go down day after day. You also you start to feel ruff even to the extent that you don't fancy a beer. Obviously the latter is gross overtraining. Overtraining of course isn't always too many miles you could reduce miles and cycle faster and still end up overtraining. Stop reading books and feel your body but not while watching porn!!!!
Reading to many books is also overtraining but in this case your brain.

For the reasons Robert has already stated this is wrong and entirely misleading. Before putting statements down that may misinform others you should really be checking your facts and your own understanding of how training works.