Tour de France 2017 ***SPOILERS***

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jarlrmai

Veteran
interesting racing line at that roundabout..
 

smutchin

Cat 6 Racer
Location
The Red Enclave
Can you demonstrate in a verifiable / falsifiable manner that the Tour goes over steeper hills than it used to?

The Mont du Chat is bloody steep - and relentlessly so. If you're talking in terms of average gradient, it would be hard to find another climb in Tour de France history that's steeper. However, the problem in attempting to make such comparisons is that it's not nearly as long a climb as the likes of the Tourmalet or Madeleine or Galibier. And while those climbs may have 'easier' average gradients overall, they do feature much steeper sections. So, I'd say the evidence is inconclusive either way.

The Mont du Chat's relatively short length is why it was only rated as a Cat 2 the last time it featured in the Tour in 1974, according to Inrng.

The Grand Colombier is another fairly recent addition to the Tour that is notable for being extremely difficult.
 

Adam4868

Guru
Pro cycling is a dangerous sport,I'd say there are more crashes in the sprints than anything else.Maybe wrong but a descent is only as dangerous as you.choose to ride it.Take risks and it can end badly.
Meanwhile on with the race.
 
Would now be a good time to point out that Porte didnae crash due to dangerous roads but due to his inability to stay on the road provided?

The history of cycle racing is full of serious incidents and deaths. Cycle racing has always been about selling stuff.

Nothing to see here...
 

hoopdriver

Guru
Location
East Sussex
Yes, he took too many risks for his skill level as a descender.

I must say, the commentators and guest commentators on ITV4 don't really seem to know how to fill in the hours with engaging and relevant commentary. I find myself keeping it on mute most of the time.
 
I stuck £1 on him last night at 600/1 so I hope he isn't caught!
Should I cash out now for £1.20?
 

MikeG

Guru
Location
Suffolk
The Mont du Chat is bloody steep - and relentlessly so. If you're talking in terms of average gradient, it would be hard to find another climb in Tour de France history that's steeper. However, the problem in attempting to make such comparisons is that it's not nearly as long a climb as the likes of the Tourmalet or Madeleine or Galibier. And while those climbs may have 'easier' average gradients overall, they do feature much steeper sections. So, I'd say the evidence is inconclusive either way.

The Mont du Chat's relatively short length is why it was only rated as a Cat 2 the last time it featured in the Tour in 1974, according to Inrng.

The Grand Colombier is another fairly recent addition to the Tour that is notable for being extremely difficult.

F-O-T-E's premise is that these peaks have only been brought in recently at the behest of the groupset manufacturers. The fact that this hill has been climbed before on the Tour, whilst only being one data-point, doesn't help his case.
 

rich p

ridiculous old lush
Location
Brighton
My grandson is hogging the TV watching 'Planes' the movie.
I'm not sure if watching Dusty the cropsprayer vs Ripslinger isn't more entertaining?
 
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