Tour de France 2015 - may contain nuts and SPOILERS

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bikeman66

Senior Member
Location
Isle of Wight
Voigt's protestations regarding this descent are rather ridiculous, and somewhat reminiscent of the Schlecks' objections at having to race downhill a few years ago. I think they lost time on this same road when Contador decided to go for it.

Most technical descents in mountainous terrain can be lethal if you make even just a small mistake in the wrong place at the wrong time. Croix de Fer, Glandon, Madeleine, Cormet de Roseland, Izoard, Allos etc are all littered with death (or race-changing) opportunities. And any which don't have a big climb finish or long flat run-in to follow will be even more stressful in a race situation, not just the Col de Manse.

Head-first into a concrete wall or a rock face, tipping over a low wall or barrier into a ravine or over the edge of a bridge are all easily possible in countless places on many descents in cycling, so if professional riders want or feel compelled to race down them in a race of the Tour's stature, rather than protest about them they should:
  • conduct a recce and pay attention on it and in any briefings
  • consider and be aware of their ability and comfort zone
  • take more care
  • not behave like idiotic/inexperienced sportive riders (i.e. be more observant, adapt to the conditions, respect the other riders)
It's perfectly possible to still blitzkrieg a descent, and maintain sporting ethics and televisual spectacle, whilst observing the above. Calling for descents to be avoided, or no descents close to a finish, is nonsense when it's within the riders' own control how much risk they take. Does he disagree with the Poggio in Milan San-Remo too?
Great post! It's the Tour de France for goodness sake. The roads in France go up.........and they go down, it's part of the deal. Just as the other specialist riders, the climbers, the time triallists, there are those who excell on the descents. Peter Sagan's pursuit of Plaza, although it didn't bear fruit, was sublime, and he demonstrated more than once, how great bike handling skills can get you out of a tight situation.
 

Foghat

Freight-train-groove-rider
Doesn't alter the fact that Barguil is a loose descender.

In the lead-up to the incident, Barguil spent much of the descent weaving around van Garderen, gaining and losing a place to him several times, riding alongside him inappropriately and basically descending like a novice riding his first sportve. van Garderen was probably getting a bit brassed off with it, which might explain him nudging Barguil away on the approach to the incident bend when Barguil was idiotically crowding him again.
 
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Wafer

Veteran
He locked up the rear. It wasn't the brakes that were the limiting factor.

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Bonus

Veteran
Location
Ainsa, Spain
Yep, you're right he did lose time. Contador & Sammy Sanchez got a few seconds on the small peloton sized group. I can't remember who it was (Voeckler?) that ended up in someone's driveway. Brilliant & memorable stage.

And I have the feeling this was the descent where one of the riders got concussion on the same corner where G came off??

Was that the time TV (whilst in yellow iirc) went off the road through someone's gate (open luckily) into their front driveway, rode a circle and then back onto the road to carry on?
 

bikeman66

Senior Member
Location
Isle of Wight
Can someone put me out of my misery please. What is the song/band played for the end credits of itv4 today its driving me crazy?!
I'm almost sure the end credits rolled to the sound of "Go" by The Chemical Brothers...... Featuring Q-tip. Best tune I've heard in a while, and respect to the producers for being bang up to date!
 

robertob

Well-Known Member
Location
Dublin
I've got tons of respect for Sagan who is out there fighting every day. He deserves to get the elusive win.
 

tug benson

Survived the Tour O the borders 2013
Location
Alloa
@inrng: Froome on Col du Soudet to La Pierre St Martin
RPM avg 97
HR avg 158bpm, 174 max
5.78W/kg
via L'Equipe's @a_thomas_commin at Sky press conf.
 
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