Tour de France 2015 - may contain nuts and SPOILERS

[400bhp]

Sagan, IMO, is at a bit of a crossroads in his career. Does he just become a GC points rider, a classics rider of a tour rider. He doesn't have the body shape (currently) to go for GC's but would do well (and has shown some of that this year) in one week races.

 

[HF2300]

Thinking about Sagan and the complaints that everyone is targeting him... It strikes me that if he can't handle the fact that one of the jersey holders becomes the centre of attention, he isn't yet mature enough to wear it. I don't mean that as a criticism, just that he may still have a lot of growing up to do.

I don't know if he complains that everyone's targeting him, or not in a petulant way at least - the fact is that a strong and versatile rider is going to be watched and isn't going to be given free rein. If he had GC ambitions, or was even top 10 - 15 I don't imagine the breakaway would have been given leeway today, for example.

 

[coffeejo]

He's won it for the past 3 years.

I know but he's complaining that everyone targeted him. Oleg Tinkov said "his real problem is that everyone race against him". Sagan said "it is very hard to go for the win when ... everybody just stay on the wheel and they waiting for what I do ..."

I'm not saying he's not a good enough rider to win - he's proved that he is, time and time again. He's brilliant, physically. I just think he's got a lot more growing up to do.

 

[Pro Tour Punditry]

I know but he's complaining that everyone targeted him. Oleg Tinkov said "his real problem is that everyone race against him". Sagan said "it is very hard to go for the win when ... everybody just stay on the wheel and they waiting for what I do ..."

I'm not saying he's not a good enough rider to win - he's proved that he is, time and time again. He's brilliant, physically. I just think he's got a lot more growing up to do.

There's nothing incorrect in what he was saying. It is very hard for him to win when everyone sits on his wheel waiting for him to make a move.
Whether it's seen as "moaning" is open to interpretation.

 

[coffeejo]

There's nothing incorrect in what he was saying. It is very hard for him to win when everyone sits on his wheel waiting for him to make a move.
Whether it's seen as "moaning" is open to interpretation.

Moaning is your word, not mine

 

[raindog]

Here's the vid of Barguil explaining that his fingers slipped off the rear brake lever - make of it what you will.
http://www.lequipe.fr/Cyclisme-sur-route/Actualites/-ma-tete-dans-un-poteau/575674

 

[Pro Tour Punditry]

Moaning is your word, not mine

complaining/moaning, whatever

 

[bikeman66]

Here's the vid of Barguil explaining that his fingers slipped off the rear brake lever - make of it what you will.
http://www.lequipe.fr/Cyclisme-sur-route/Actualites/-ma-tete-dans-un-poteau/575674

He needs to stick to one story! I heard he claimed another rider pushed him off line for the corner, so he couldn't avoid G. Which one is the official line then Warren?

 

[Andrew_P]

The ITV GT interview was pure class, he was gutted he lost his glasses as they are not made anymore. He said I expect the team Dr to be a long in a minute and ask my name and DOB, interview quips do you know it? Yes Chris, Chris Froome

 

[Gains84]

Can someone put me out of my misery please. What is the song/band played for the end credits of itv4 today its driving me crazy?!

 

[mcshroom]

@velocast: While, thankfully, @GeraintThomas86 is ok, it's unknown how long the citizens of Gap will be without landline telephone connectivity.

https://twitter.com/velocast/status/623155681223438337

 

[MisterStan]

Thomas' descent must have been stunning. He fell off, had to climb out of a ditch and recover his bike, then had to get back on and chase them down. To only lose 38 seconds beggars belief.

 

[deptfordmarmoset]

He needs to stick to one story! I heard he claimed another rider pushed him off line for the corner, so he couldn't avoid G. Which one is the official line then Warren?

He does say it was Teejay in that clip. Same story. Jury's out on the truth of the story though.... Lots of support for GT and his Welsh humour (which translates as English humour, just as Froome's ''Wild west'' translates as ''Far west'' in French.) in the commentaries.

 

[deptfordmarmoset]

Thomas' descent must have been stunning. He fell off, had to climb out of a ditch and recover his bike, then had to get back on and chase them down. To only lose 38 seconds beggars belief.

Nah, he changed bike for one of those nuclear powered seat post ones. They're slick, those TeamMachiavelli guys.

 

[mjr]

Sky have just announced that Thomas will carry on with a sore shoulder and a bruised ear. A bruised ear. Not something you encounter every day of the week.

Not something covered by his crash helmet, either.