Froome chose his role at Sky and at the same time turned down the chance to lead a team when he resigned with Sky last year. He knew what he was getting him self into.
Tour de France 2012 (with SPOILERS)
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Froome chose his role at Sky and at the same time turned down the chance to lead a team when he resigned with Sky last year. He knew what he was getting him self into.
Peteaud
Veteran
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- South Somerset
Robert Millar from the Guardian
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2012/jul/21/robert-millar-tour-de-france
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2012/jul/21/robert-millar-tour-de-france
smutchin
Cat 6 Racer
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- The Red Enclave
They already have several very strong contenders for his job - not least Rigoberto Uran and Geraint Thomas. Froome needs Sky more than Sky need Froome.
Historically, plenty of super domestiques have thought they could do better elsewhere, but how many of them have gone on to win Grand Tours with a different team?
d.
This seems to be the de facto response at the moment.
He's a person, he has emotions n opinions n stuff.
Monsieur Remings
Guru
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- Yatton UK
Just another opinion from someone who thinks he knows best, like you correctly imply Crackle.
FWIW I've taken on-board a lot of what others have said about Cavendish and Froome and I'm not the same opinion as I was a few short weeks ago now. Perhaps also, I, we're talking about separate things? Maybe we're talking as spectators but at other times 'have-a-go Brailsford's'?
If, for example, Cav's goal is Olympic Gold then time will tell whether he will feel supported at the 2013 TDF. I'd suggest that if his ultimate goal as a cyclist, and perhaps it's not, is to win the most stages ever as a rider then I still think he'd be better off with a train/team dedicated to him, but as others have said that isn't his objective this year and it certainly wasn't Team Sky's. However, perhaps as a spectator I subjectively wanted to see that even though my mind told me that earlier in the season, he did get good support in the Giro and with a combination of bad luck and other factors he didn't pull it off. No place like the Tour de France though eh, and the disappointment of his lonely role which I perceived to be that of a team sprinter/scavenger of stages as opposed a far more important figure in the rainbow jersey. I accept then that this was what Sky had in order for him but it does remain to be seen what will happen after Olympic Gold..?
Equally, as a spectator I'd have loved to have seen Chris Froome, standing as I was in Cycle City Pau on the big screen that day on Thursday July 12th's 11th stage in the Alps, take out Pierre Rolland because he gave such a fantastic ride and deserved it. He would have too if he hadn't have been held back and whilst team orders for the greater good is no new thing to cycling, I'm not so sure that Wiggins would have lost the kind of time that would have been precarious but who knows? As others have suggested, I'm not Dave Brailsford. Either way it would have been great to see given that one of Froome's other great acts this tour was to protect Wiggins all the way up La Planche Des Belles Filles and still have the power left to finish the job. Remarkable.
Roll on 2013 and well done Gentleman Wiggins and all of Team Sky who have, undoubtedly, worked tremendously well and dominated from start to finish.
Again, as a spectator, the prospect of the two best riders in the tour riding against each other sounds great but perhaps others would prefer to see Team Sky, remain as they were this year? Time will tell and I think I know what I'd prefer, aside my liking for old sideburns. I'd imagine some of us might argue, given the dominance of the riders of the 'Death Star', that it may even be for the good of cycling?
You know what would be madness? To ask Usain Bolt to run the Three Peaks. What would be even madder is if he won the Three Peaks but what we have here with Bradley Wiggins is the equivalent of that. From winning Olympic Gold Medals on the track in short events and then going on to win the Tour de France is unheard of, never happened before but is happening right now, today and is the most awe-inspiring thing that has ever happened in my life. I'm struggling to find words to convey how impressed I am and have bought in some champagne to toast the most incredible sporting achievement in history.
threebikesmcginty
Corn Fed Hick...
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- ...on the slake
Exciting day today, who'd have thought it! Might even sip a firkin or two in celebration.
MattHB
Proud Daddy
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- Deepest darkest Dorset
I'll have to wait until later and try to avoid any Internet. SWMBO will want the F1 on
I think I heard that Fausto Coppi did something similar but it is still a remarkable transformation.
Peteaud
Veteran
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- South Somerset
The suns out, blue sky and i should be either at the beach or out on the bike in the sun.
No.
Going to sit in front of the TV to see the TDF.
If i turn into a fat lazy slob its wiggins fault.
No.
Going to sit in front of the TV to see the TDF.
If i turn into a fat lazy slob its wiggins fault.
I'm going off what was said in the commentary of yesterday's remarkable race. Wiggins is the only man to have won Olympic track medals and to have won the TdF. I stand to be corrected but it certainly wasn't Coppi. He may have ridden on the track but is best known for things like hour records.
Yes, have a look here http://www.francetv.fr/sport/l-apres-tour-du-21072012-11607
From around 13:25 for Voekler and Jalabert's "pas beaucoup de panache" and 17:55 for Wiggin's subdued interview. On the latter, I've since seen Bradley interviewed in English and he was just as subdued in them too (emotional he said) so I think I misread the French interview. I was pissed off by Jalabert and wrongly transposed that onto Wiggin's interview. I now think his remark about the English/French relationship is perhaps more to do with him being aware (and a little embarrassed perhaps?) that he's wasn't more forthcoming.
That is just disgraceful. Really it is, and I'm being serious. Has SWMBO put her foot down (no pun intended) or have you just assumed her response?
Today is historic in British cycling. It has to be watched for that alone. On top of that, you could well get to see a 'tour de force' Sky performance, setting up Cavendish for the win.... it simply has to be watched. End of discussion.
Ta yello, I've watched it now. You're right, Jalabert is a bit dismissive of Brad's win and tries to provoke Voeckler into agreeing with him, but in fact - and I'm pleasantly surprised by this - Voeckler more or less praises Brad's win. He also says that people shouldn't be surprised by the win, because as a rider in the peloton with Brad, he's seen his other victories this season and wasn't surprised that Brad could win the Tour.
Can't see much wrong with Brad's interview except he's obviously knackered and doesn't understand one of the questions. The bit about thanking the French fans was nice, surely?
