Tour de France 2012 (with SPOILERS)

[deptfordmarmoset]

Yes, have a look here http://www.francetv.fr/sport/l-apres-tour-du-21072012-11607

From around 13:25 for Voekler and Jalabert's "pas beaucoup de panache" and 17:55 for Wiggin's subdued interview. On the latter, I've since seen Bradley interviewed in English and he was just as subdued in them too (emotional he said) so I think I misread the French interview. I was pissed off by Jalabert and wrongly transposed that onto Wiggin's interview. I now think his remark about the English/French relationship is perhaps more to do with him being aware (and a little embarrassed perhaps?) that he's wasn't more forthcoming.

Unfortunately that link doesn't work in the UK.

 

[Kiwiavenger]

The suns out, blue sky and i should be either at the beach or out on the bike in the sun.

No.

Going to sit in front of the TV to see the TDF.

If i turn into a fat lazy slob its wiggins fault.

Me too! Good job mini kiwi likes bikes too! Lol

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[yello]

Unfortunately that link doesn't work in the UK.

Ah, sorry, didn't know that. I have the same problem with the BBC's iPlayer thingy.

 

[yello]

Voeckler more or less praises Brad's win.

It's the "more or less" bit I picked up on! I recognise that he was put on the spot and he tried to be diplomatic. Certainly, he puts the wins into a context in an even handed sort of a way, for sure, but then he seems (for me anyway) to dismiss that context as not exciting (I paraphrase), or not as he'd do it. It just comes across as sniffy to me, and not genuine praise.

Can't see much wrong with Brad's interview except he's obviously knackered and doesn't understand one of the questions. The bit about thanking the French fans was nice, surely?

Indeed it was nice. It was his quieter than normal manner than threw me in truth. I thought something was up. And I initially couldn't really work out what motivated his final remark re the French and English, it seemed clumsy. I'll watch it again.

Edit: having just watched it again, the remark still seems clumsy but I think he just feels a little awkward about what he's saying - thanking the supporters maybe felt a bit humbling for him, a bit 'movie star', and he's not like that. Maybe the 'French not being like the English' bit is more as an explanation for his feeling awkward???

 

[raindog]

And I initially couldn't really work out what motivated his final remark re the French and English, it seemed clumsy. I'll watch it again.

He suddenly remembers there's something else, asks for the mike again and says "And I'd just like to thank the support I've had from French fans - I know it's not always easy with the traditional rivalry that exists between the French and the English" or words to that effect. I think that's really nice, but he does look emotionally worn out, doesn't he?

 

[Noodley]

Final day and final not-very-interesting fact: the youngest winner of the Tour was 19, and the oldest was 36

 

[MattHB]

That is just disgraceful. Really it is, and I'm being serious. Has SWMBO put her foot down (no pun intended) or have you just assumed her response?

Today is historic in British cycling. It has to be watched for that alone. On top of that, you could well get to see a 'tour de force' Sky performance, setting up Cavendish for the win.... it simply has to be watched. End of discussion.

It's ok I will watch it on Eurosport player at the same time. I'll watch the end half on tv proper so it's not a biggie really

 

[raindog]

Final day and final not-very-interesting fact: the youngest winner of the Tour was 19, and the oldest was 36

Can we know who they were?
Jesus, 19 - that's ridiculous.

 

[Noodley]

Can we know who they were?
Jesus, 19 - that's ridiculous.

It would be too interesting if I named them

 

[yello]

I know it's not always easy with the traditional rivalry that exists between the French and the English" or words to that effect.

That's the bit that threw me, In truth, I don't really understand exactly what he was saying (so, yes, "words to that effect"!) and, more to the point, didn't really know why he was saying it! When I originally heard it, I'd just been pissed off by Jalabert, so that wrongly coloured by interpretation. I see I was wrong now.

As you say, Wiggin's was emotionally shot and not his normal self.

 

[threebikesmcginty]

Can we know who they were?
Jesus, 19 - that's ridiculous.

What, Jesus won it? Christ on a bike!

 

[perplexed]

Can we know who they were?
Jesus, 19 - that's ridiculous.

Henri Cornet won in 1904 aged 19 yrs, 11 months and 20 days...

Firmin Lambot won in 1922 aged 36 yrs, 4 months and 9 days...

 

[Noodley]

Henri Cornet won in 1904 aged 19 yrs, 11 months and 20 days...

Firmin Lambot won in 1922 aged 36 yrs, 4 months and 9 days...

See, far too interesting.

And as a bonus extra not-very-interesting fact for Paris: Lambot was not only the oldest winner of the Tour, he was also the frist to win the Tour without having won a stage.

 

[andrew_s]

Anyone know roughly what the ETA is of them hitting Champs Élysées? (sp)

Doing the sunshine / telly slob trade off thing

About 15:00 UK time, finish 16:10

 

[NickM]

[Froome] gave me the creeps.

Me too. Robert Millar describes him as going in for "amateur dramatics".

In fact, I understand that Lord of the Rings is to remade soon, with Wiggins as Frodo, Froome as Gollum, Brailsford as Gandalf, and Michael Rogers as Sam Gamgee...