Noodley
Guest
Yeah, we alI understand your grief and humiliation with Scotland not going beyond the qualification stages!
1967 at Wembley was much better.
Tour de France 2012 (with SPOILERS)
- Thread starter Flying_Monkey
- Start date
Page may contain affiliate links. Please see terms for details.
1967 at Wembley was much better.
- Location
- Next door to Mr Benn at No 54
Team Sky breakfast table:
(From Christian Knees, not myself, yep, I'm not there in person but I thought it's amusing...)
Are they all having Cubs for breakfast?
smutchin
Cat 6 Racer
- Location
- The Red Enclave
ColinJ
Puzzle game procrastinator!
- Location
- Todmorden - Yorks/Lancs border
The fact that he is watching it in France?
It sounds like they are whining about the Indurain-esque style of BW's hoped-for victory i.e. trash the opposition in the timetrials and defend your position in the mountains, unlike your hero LA who killed 'em in both, though quite possibly with 'a little help from his friends'? (I'm not talking about his team-mates!)
SoloCyclist
Guest
Personally I hate it when the media jump on a winning bandwagon like Wiggins, Cavendish, Hoy. They talk nonsence then quickly go off back to Football, Golf, Rugby....
I know it shouldn't but it annoys me listening to them pass off some cheesy cliches read from a autocue, drop in some drug references then move on in 30secs.
How can he be sportsman of the year if it's a team sport? Do you think Wiggins is on drugs because he has come from nowhere? These are just a couple questions I get asked fairly regular.
I know it shouldn't but it annoys me listening to them pass off some cheesy cliches read from a autocue, drop in some drug references then move on in 30secs.
How can he be sportsman of the year if it's a team sport? Do you think Wiggins is on drugs because he has come from nowhere? These are just a couple questions I get asked fairly regular.
gavroche
Getting old but not past it
- Location
- North Wales
Thinking ahead to next year's tour, do you think Froom should get his own team? I think he should as he is s better climber than Wiggins and should provide good competition specially with Andy Schleck and Contador back.
SoloCyclist
Guest
What are his options? How does transferring to another team work? Is he tied to SKY? Does the new team buy him out? Will SKY want the competition? Can they sit on his contract and not use him if he is a reluctant participant?
Sorry for my lack of knowledge on the matter.
Sorry for my lack of knowledge on the matter.
gavroche
Getting old but not past it
- Location
- North Wales
You have very good, valid points but we all know that in the sporting world, contracts are very volatile.
Yes, sorry, I am.
Prudhomme has just described Wiggins as 'cold, typically British'... so I'm obviously missing something in the translation. Lots of talk about Sky's plans and objectives as if they're not allowed to plan to win and ought be making it up as they go along. Jalabert (whom I'm starting to like less and less) said Wiggins had not a lot of panache. Voekler effectively called both Wiggins and Sky boring - so he's not getting a Christmas card from me either!
No panache? Boring? I wonder how many yellow jersey holders they've seen leading out a sprint?
Edit: Oh, and mention of Sky's budget being x times greater than the average French team. It all comes across very critically imho and it's needling me a little in honesty.
Fortunately, Stephen Roche was able to describe Sky's approach in a positive way; said it was scientific, they monitored power outputs, heart rates - attention to detail that gave rewards.
His contract with Sky can be bought out - just as Sky bought out Wiggin's contract with Garmin. They could of course refuse to sell but there's practically not a lot of point in keeping a rider who wants out. Depends what Froome wants to do, he'll have the offers that's for sure.
Peteaud
Veteran
- Location
- South Somerset
How the hell this TDF is boring i will never know.
Smokin Joe
Squire
- Location
- Bare headed cyclist, Smoker
I reckon Froome knows where he is best off. A British team who realise the value of his potential and are prepared to nurture and support him as a future winner. Going to a continental team might seem a better bet in the short term, but they are just as likely to chew him up and spit him out should he not deliver straight away.
I'd be surprised to see him go.
I'd be surprised to see him go.
SoloCyclist
Guest
My questions all come from a genuine lack of knowledge on the subject. It's something I am very interested to know more about. I love the sport but this is a part of the sport I have never given much thought to.
IF Froome is the main contender apart from the others mentioned who I believe will be coming back from bans and injuries and he has no chance of being team leader as Wiggins must be allowed to defend (right?) then surely he will want away. If SKY don't let him go then that would be seen as running scared and noone wants a hollow victory (right?).
So someone comes up with the money Froome leaves Wiggins loses a great ally and the teams become closer matched. Wins all round for the spectator, Le Tour, TV, cycling, sponsers? or does Froome leaving weaken SKY/Wiggins and let some infiltrater in?
Noodley
Guest
If Froome leaves then Sky just get someone else in to do the job he did. He goes to a team and has to find a team who can do for him what Sky helped Wiggins with . And from where I am sitting there isn't one.
I wouldn't want to say. Particularly if his tweeting girlfriend/wife (whatever) has a say in things!
That he's going to get some attractive offers is beyond question. He can just about name his price I'd expect. If he stays, Sky will have a bit of a balancing act to perform I reckon - but a great deal of that will depend on what their riders want to achieve personally and whether than can be accommodated. It's not just about Froome and Wiggins, there's Cavendish, EBH, Richie Porte....
If Froome is looking to lead Sky at the next TdF, how might that fit in with Cavendish's plans? Is EBH happy to perform the same role again?
