This tiny submarine 2.4 miles under the sea, visiting the relics of RMS Titanic. Can it be found and the crew saved before the air runs out?

[classic33]

Seems as though it will be a Canadian led investigation.
"The Royal Canadian Mounted Police launch CRIMINAL probe into Titan submersible"
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...RIMINAL-probe-Titan-submersible-disaster.html

 

[Time Waster]

The news yesterday had uscg taking lead with systems in n place to bring in the official bodies of nforeign nations interested parties such as the national marine investigation branches of the nations of the deceased or relatives or nations of companies with interest. At the request of those countries. But essentially the USCG having a ķind of veto. Possibly because they've gone to get it?

When I last looked they were Canada, France and UK.

 

[Bonefish Blues]

There's a transcript of its final comms doing the rounds. If it is to be believed there was some sort of emergency signal by their real time monitoring gauges, they jettisoned ballast and the landing gear (unusual) and tried to ascend, but lost contact within 10 mins of first alarm.

 

[Mad Doug Biker]

There's a transcript of its final comms doing the rounds. If it is to be believed there was some sort of emergency signal by their real time monitoring gauges, they jettisoned ballast and the landing gear (unusual) and tried to ascend, but lost contact within 10 mins of first alarm.

Yeah I heard the other day there that they had realised something was wrong and had started to ascend. I did not know the timeline though.

I reckon they know more than they are telling the public currently anyway.

 

[DaveReading]

No that’s not how it was done but the disclaimers were done on the ship. Just like I could sign up and pay to climb Everest, but would not necessarily sign anything as a disclaimer till in country.

They weren’t advertising in submarine weekly, and posting out the forms via international post and waiting it to be posted back. Some things you do upfront some things you do much nearer the time.

Ocean gate were exploiting the grey areas and gaps to avoid scrutiny and the question remains to to whether suing or making a claim in anywhere other than the Bahamas has any validity.

You can't disclaim your way out of negligence.

In any jurisdiction

 

[cougie uk]

That's quite a stretch to call it tourism

Adventure tourism.

 

[cougie uk]

Seems as though it will be a Canadian led investigation.
"The Royal Canadian Mounted Police launch CRIMINAL probe into Titan submersible"
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...RIMINAL-probe-Titan-submersible-disaster.html

I'd not trust the mail if it told me the sun had risen.

 

[classic33]

I'd not trust the mail if it told me the sun had risen.

https://wtxnews.com/canadian-police-launch-criminal-probe-into-titan-submersible-deaths/

 

[Mad Doug Biker]

I'd not trust the mail if it told me the sun had risen.

The Fail, The Scum, they are both as bad as each other.

 

[Ming the Merciless]

You can't disclaim your way out of negligence.

In any jurisdiction

You can when it comes to the high seas, if they don’t fall under any jurisdiction

 

[Bonefish Blues]

You can when it comes to the high seas, if they don’t fall under any jurisdiction

Oceangate is registered in the US. The Titan itself was registered in the Bahamas. Those jurisdictions would typically hear any claim aiui.

 

[Dogtrousers]

There was another ship went down in that area a while ago, I forget it's name. The operators had to pay significant compensation IIRC

 

[Ming the Merciless]

There's a transcript of its final comms doing the rounds. If it is to be believed there was some sort of emergency signal by their real time monitoring gauges, they jettisoned ballast and the landing gear (unusual) and tried to ascend, but lost contact within 10 mins of first alarm.

I guess by jettisoning the landing gear, they were just trying to ascend as fast as possible.

 

[Bonefish Blues]

I guess by jettisoning the landing gear, they were just trying to ascend as fast as possible.

Assuming the transcript is accurate, but there seems doubt - but nobody's disputing that they had that capability, used in extremis.

 

[Dadam]

That's quite a stretch to call it tourism

Of course it's tourism. They're paying money, to a company, to visit somewhere. What else is it?

Companies offering higher risk activities usually have all sorts of waivers but as stated by others where there's well documented negligence of this scale they can be worthless. No doubt they were given all sorts of verbal assurances of safety by this Stockton Rush character. I'm no expert on the law and no idea about the criminal juridisdictions - that sounds a right mess - but in civil proceedings it's inconceivable to me the company would not be found liable and it would be under US law where they are registered.

I can imagine there being all sorts of repercussions and reviews of safety controls in other perceived high risk tourism.