This tiny submarine 2.4 miles under the sea, visiting the relics of RMS Titanic. Can it be found and the crew saved before the air runs out?

[HMS_Dave]

Reports coming in of a sonar picking up banging sounds. Would be amazing if it is the sub and they get out.

If they do, I hope they have the decency to offer a very large contribution towards what this will be costing. Not entirely sure I agree with people putting themselves in needless danger for thrills and putting others at risk and costing a massive amount of money to rescue them when it goes pear shaped.

That often is the hidden consequence of these adventures. I hope they can be rescued if it is them as such an undertaking given the limited time they have left is extremely difficult and never been achieved at anything close to these depths. The noises could be geological or otherwise but what a nightmare all round though...

 

[chris667]

What a desperate situation to be trapped in a tiny box a couple of miles underwater. Frankly, I hope they died instantly rather than have a few days to contemplate the air running out.

The idea of a rescue puts me in mind of Mrs667's dad. A lovely man who used to be a pit mechanic. He told me about when there was an explosion and they were made to go down and clear up wearing radio transmitters and name tags - management wanted them identifiable if there was a second explosion.

 

[PaulSB]

Reports coming in of a sonar picking up banging sounds. Would be amazing if it is the sub and they get out.

If they do, I hope they have the decency to offer a very large contribution towards what this will be costing. Not entirely sure I agree with people putting themselves in needless danger for thrills and putting others at risk and costing a massive amount of money to rescue them when it goes pear shaped.

Mrs P and I discussed this last night. For me whatever the outcome the costs of the search and rescue should be paid from the vast fortunes these individuals appear to have amassed during their lifetimes. I can't help but think this "adventure" iilustrates what happens when people have so much, perhaps too much, money that they have nothing left in their lives.

People with hundreds of millions, billions of £££ or $$$ described as adventurers, explorers, aviators, mission specialists - often far from the reality. It's fantasy really, a way to fill a probably otherwise empty life, an unnecessary "adventure" which puts others at risk.

 

[chris667]

I can't help but think this "adventure" iilustrates what happens when people have so much, perhaps too much, money that they have nothing left in their lives.

I suppose it must be addictive.

 

[PaulSB]

I suppose it must be addictive.

Everything is relative though I can't help but feel there are people on here who have greater adventures when they go out on a bike tour.

 

[chris667]

Everything is relative but I can't help but feel there are people on here who have greater adventures when they go out on a bike tour.

As a recovering addict sitting here drinking his early morning cuppa, I very much agree with you.

For me, touring is curiosity. Partaking in an addiction is avoiding something unpleasant by doing something that switches your mind off.

 

[Drago]

T'is said on the news the noises being heard are regular, every 30 minutes.

Sadly it doesn't seem to make the prospect of a successful recovery wny more likely. My fingers are crossed, but it now seems to be a time limited game and if they found them right this minute it does not seem likely they'll have the equipment available to recover them in time. We shall see I guess.

 

[Regular.Cyclist]

I still can't fathom it out. I will just not sink in! 🧐 So if the corks are forced inside, at what point of the decent to the bottom did/does that happen? Surely it didn't/doesn't happen when the bottles reach the sea bed, as by that point the pressure would've crushed the bottles at a lesser depth point? 🤔

Pressure increases with dept. As any object sinks pressure on either side of it will need to equalise or be crushed. Wine bottles can hold out to at least 4 bar (~60 PSI). These bottles will nee to equalise pressure within the first 40 metres, or so, or be crushed.

 

[Bonefish Blues]

T'is said on the news the noises being heard are regular, every 30 minutes.

Sadly it doesn't seem to make the prospect of a successful recovery wny more likely. My fingers are crossed, but it now seems to be a time limited game and if they found them right this minute it does not seem likely they'll have the equipment available to recover them in time. We shall see I guess.

This, sadly.

 

[DaveReading]

Reports coming in of a sonar picking up banging sounds. Would be amazing if it is the sub and they get out.

If they do, I hope they have the decency to offer a very large contribution towards what this will be costing. Not entirely sure I agree with people putting themselves in needless danger for thrills and putting others at risk and costing a massive amount of money to rescue them when it goes pear shaped.

I sincerely hope that none of the rescue mission members are putting themselves in danger, nor do I think they will be.

 

[Mad Doug Biker]

That sounds pretty grim, I'll admit.


Regarding the flippancy thing. I am not sure exactly who it is being referred too, but what I meant was that I don't quite get the seemingly inordinate interest in the Titanic, when there have been other equally awful sinkings. Yes, every situation is different and the Titanic is fairly impressive (not the right word, but you know what I mean), but there are plenty of others that most people have forgotten about. At no point did I criticize anyone though, I mean, if it floats your boat (pardon the pun) then, well... I usually just shy away from really popular things - They seem too obvious, too easy, that's all. Nothing wrong with that.

As for the comment about the irony of the situation not being lost on me, yet again, that's just a simple observation.

Anyway, as it is, I wish them all the best.

 

[DaveReading]

Regarding the flippancy thing. I am not sure exactly who it is being referred too, but what I meant was that I don't quite get the seemingly inordinate interest in the Titanic, when there have been other equally awful sinkings. Yes, every situation is different and the Titanic is fairly impressive (not the right word, but you know what I mean), but there are plenty of others that most people have forgotten about. At no point did I criticize anyone though, I mean, if it floats your boat (pardon the pun) then, well... I usually just shy away from really popular things - They seem too obvious, too easy, that's all. Nothing wrong with that.

I think the fascination with the Titanic comes from a combination of the massive loss of life, the circumstances surrounding the sinking and, not least, the massive hubris surrounding the construction, launch and maiden voyage of the supposedly "unsinkable" liner.

 

[Mike_P]

Commercial stupidity was White Stars problem. There were issues with Titanic on its way to Southampton which saw a number of the crew to abandon their but they persisted with the journey rather than accepting they may have a problem

 

[T4tomo]

Mrs P and I discussed this last night. For me whatever the outcome the costs of the search and rescue should be paid from the vast fortunes these individuals appear to have amassed during their lifetimes. I can't help but think this "adventure" iilustrates what happens when people have so much, perhaps too much, money that they have nothing left in their lives.

People with hundreds of millions, billions of £££ or $$$ described as adventurers, explorers, aviators, mission specialists - often far from the reality. It's fantasy really, a way to fill a probably otherwise empty life, an unnecessary "adventure" which puts others at risk.

Indeed its little different (apart from the £££ involved) from someone rowing out of the coast of coast of Bournemouth in an inflatable dingy with a pair of flip flops as safety gear and expecting the coastguard / lifeboats to come an recue them when it inevitably goes tits up.

well actually its worse, as its pretty easy for the coastguard /lifeboat to reach the dingy. There isn't a known safety backup for an experimental submersible going to depths beyond what another vessel can do.

At least when people row the Atlantic or do a round the world yatch race etc, there is a self / collective self funded back-up in place (often another competitor in the case of the latter).

 

[Jameshow]

Its true! Or certainly appears to be.

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Indeed its little different (apart from the £££ involved) from someone rowing out of the coast of coast of Bournemouth in an inflatable dingy with a pair of flip flops as safety gear and expecting the coastguard / lifeboats to come an recue them when it inevitably goes tits up.

well actually its worse, as its pretty easy for the coastguard /lifeboat to reach the dingy. There isn't a known safety backup for an experimental submersible going to depths beyond what another vessel can do.

At least when people row the Atlantic or do a round the world yatch race etc, there is a self / collective self funded back-up in place (often another competitor in the case of the latter).

But often ships do divert to help.

Mariners will often go to great lengths to help each other and often across different disciplines..