The new improved Lance Armstrong discussion thread.*

[johnr]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2012/oct/20/lance-armstrong-livestrong-15th-anniversary
Sounds like anyone who is no one was there.

 

[ufkacbln]

I love the concept of SKY being in any way a clean or respectable sponsor

The Murdoch Empire is as corrupt, sleazy and contemptible as any organisation you would care to name.

Or are their activities acceptable now?

 

[MichaelM]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2012/oct/20/lance-armstrong-livestrong-15th-anniversary
Sounds like anyone who is no one was there.

From the link "Drug testers never caught Armstrong when he was competing, Goldstein said."

Well that's me convinced....

 

[MichaelM]

I love the concept of SKY being in any way a clean or respectable sponsor

The Murdoch Empire is as corrupt, sleazy and contemptible as any organisation you would care to name.

Or are their activities acceptable now?

What exactly are you alluding to with that?

 

[kedab]

On a different note sad to see Rabobank leave.

what, what, what?! i have missed this - i love the rabobank kit...what am i to do now

 

[laurence]

what, what, what?! i have missed this - i love the rabobank kit...what am i to do now

get Euskaltel kit... more orange for your money.

 

[kedab]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2012/oct/20/lance-armstrong-livestrong-15th-anniversary
Sounds like anyone who is no one was there.

sean penn

 

[kedab]

get Euskaltel kit... more orange for your money.

funny you should mention that...i do like that kit. problem solved and it will serve as a decent hi-vis too

 

[dellzeqq]

With the no-contest, Lance isn't admitting defeat but using the same tactic employed by the Tea Party. Don't engage with the opposition. Don't argue on the issues. Instead, create an alternative reality through compliant media outlets. Gather as many supporters as possible into the bubble and discredit and vilify anything that comes from outside. Try to blow the bubble out as big as possible.

yes indeed. If you can work your way past the advertising take a look (or rather listen) to the video
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/vid...armstrong-speaks-livestrong-anniversary-video
'it's been a difficult couple of weeks, for me, for my family, for my friends, for this foundation'.. 'I've been better, but I've also been worse'.... 'humbling'. After the Nixonian non-denial denial we now have the non-apology apology

 

[Red Light]

I love the concept of SKY being in any way a clean or respectable sponsor

The Murdoch Empire is as corrupt, sleazy and contemptible as any organisation you would care to name.

Or are their activities acceptable now?

No, they're just much better at hacking the phones of the testers so they know when they can glow.

 

[ufkacbln]

What exactly are you alluding to with that?

Google is your friend!

Spend a few minutes on Google investigating SKY and News Corp, and all will be revealed

 

[Scoosh]

There is a big difference between a professional cycling racing team and how it is run ...


... and a sponsoring company and how it is run.

Isn't there ?

 

[MichaelM]

Google is your friend!

Spend a few minutes on Google investigating SKY and News Corp, and all will be revealed

I'm aware of the antics of the Maxwells, but I don't think your word choice was accidental:

I love the concept of SKY being in any way a clean or respectable sponsor...

with obvious connotations to doping.

Now I wouldn't bet my house on all the riders in team SKY being clean, but I very much doubt there's an organized regime. Why you try to muddy the waters this way I don't know.

 

[BJH]

I'm aware of the antics of the Maxwells, but I don't think your word choice was accidental:



with obvious connotations to doping.

Now I wouldn't bet my house on all the riders in team SKY being clean, but I very much doubt there's an organized regime. Why you try to muddy the waters this way I don't know.

Think you mean Murdoch Not Maxwell

I mentioned them first, it was as part of a comment on Rabobank opting to leave, nothing to do with the team or suggesting anything going on.

Merely linking the disgraceful antics of the Murdoch owned press to the equally disgraced antics if the UCI.

It's relevant given Rabobanks comments on not wanting to be associated with the actions of the sports governing body, which every other sponsor must also be questioning at the moment - unless of course disgraceful behaviours is the norm for them too.

 

[MichaelM]

Think you mean Murdoch Not Maxwell

Of course

Good job I'm not responsible for labeling samples or I might have put Yates on the wrong bottle.