The new improved Lance Armstrong discussion thread.*

[DogTired]

A poor grasp of medical ethics then?

Lets take AIDS testing in the UK.

Actually let's not take AIDS testing in the UK. This is about the WADA code for drug testing in sport (the 2003 edition in force at the time). AIDS testing in the UK doesnt bring enlightenment to the subject.

 

[yello]

So its not a breach, a reporter had a lot of work to do, went about it cleverly and access was by permission of the UCI AND Lance Armstrong himself.

I'm not disagreeing with you! I think you might have missed the part where I said I didn't think there was a breach. My point was that IF (note IF) there was a breach, it was someone making the journalist's task just a little easier. In fairness, we can't be certain that didn't happen.

I would however be interested to know at what point Armstrong gave his consent and to what exactly. Exactly what did Armstrong give permission for?

 

[smutchin]

http://ihatebicyclists.wordpress.com/2012/10/11/if-you-hate-lance-armstrong-you-hate-america/

lolz

 

[GrumpyGregry]

I'm not disagreeing with you! I think you might have missed the part where I said I didn't think there was a breach. My point was that IF (note IF) there was a breach, it was someone making the journalist's task just a little easier. In fairness, we can't be certain that didn't happen.

I would however be interested to know at what point Armstrong gave his consent and to what exactly. Exactly what did Armstrong give permission for?

Who cares, he's a cheat.

 

[Crosstrailer]

Looks like Red Light has retired, hurt and we now have Dellzeqq in to bat as chief apologist. Oh dear, he's gone first ball........

 

[tigger]

So as a quick status update... Big Tex definitely did cheat after all. There is no question of that. The majority are glad that this is finally outed. A few people still think the process followed by USADA is questionable. So we still haven't moved on...

So the next burning issues must be focused around the UCI surely? How will they react? Will heads role? How deeply complicit were they?

 

[Flying_Monkey]

We will have to wait a few weeks while they digest the full implications...

 

[Red Light]

It almost feels like this guy will need to walk into the middle of the White House lawn and take a dump on the stars and stripes before some people will wake up and smell the coffee.

 

[dellzeqq]

Looks like Red Light has retired, hurt and we now have Dellzeqq in to bat as chief apologist. Oh dear, he's gone first ball........

I'm not apologising for him. I still admire the man, despite the fact he cheated. Not least because he annoys the living **** out of you.

Face it - he got the millions, he got the girls, he got the undying adulation of his fellow Americans and he got free sunglasses. And he raised half a billion bucks for charidee. And he got to ride really nice bikes.

He'll leave a bit of wreckage behind - possibly a lot of wreckage. Hein and Pat will shuffle off in to the shades, maybe some of the money will go.......but that's not the greatest tragedy

 

[Red Light]

No can we get on with re-building.

I have doubts after this year is finished whether there will be any sponsors left to fund the rebuilding.

 

[Red Light]

Looks like Red Light has retired, hurt and we now have Dellzeqq in to bat as chief apologist. Oh dear, he's gone first ball........

Actually having a great evening with friends. Meanwhile a few ad hominems is the sum total of your life this evening.

 

[Red Light]

I see the sweetheart deals have been published. Six months ban for Levi, George, Christian, Tom and Dave instead of two years for being good boys and taking the USADA shilling. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/19917856

 

[Aperitif]

I come to this a bit late (well, early - so what...) and I would like to link to a nice article by William Fotheringham: HERE.

 

[johnr]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2012/oct/11/lance-armstrong-bradley-wiggins

Wiggo weighs in.

 

[Crosstrailer]

Actually having a great evening with friends. Meanwhile a few ad hominems is the sum total of your life this evening.

What a ridiculous comment. How do you know what I was doing last night ?. Answer - you don't.

I hope you have another great day today