No it's not. He's just been on TV saying very positive things about Pharmstrong today, in China where he's riding in the Tour there.
The new improved Lance Armstrong discussion thread.*
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festival
Über Member
Alex Dowsett's comments!
Its a minor detail among all the stuff coming out today, but really, what plonker.
"he's a legend" "it dosn't matter".
Well why don't we just give up right now and let everyone take what they like.
Dowsett did come from the Livestrong feeder team, maybe he has got something he would like to share? no he's just a complete self-gratification artist!
Its a minor detail among all the stuff coming out today, but really, what plonker.
"he's a legend" "it dosn't matter".
Well why don't we just give up right now and let everyone take what they like.
Dowsett did come from the Livestrong feeder team, maybe he has got something he would like to share? no he's just a complete self-gratification artist!
Crosstrailer
Well-Known Member
Cannot believe that Red Light is trying to explain all of the evidence away. Utterly incredible. There's none so blind who will not see.......
Well, he did do it. He cheated. He lied. He bullied other riders, although one former team mate has been on Radio 5 this evening to say that he saw nothing and was never put under any pressure. He's not particularly generous about his competitors. He may not be a nice person at all, but, then again, he never pretended to be a nice person. But...........he was a great, great cyclist. And whatever name they put on those seven TdFs now, nobody other than a few thousand cyclists and the French will think that anybody other than Armstrong won those races.
He's got away with it ........and married Cheryl Crow. That's the way it is, and the rest of the world is going to just have to suck it up.
View: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtZhG2kWVLY
He's got away with it ........and married Cheryl Crow. That's the way it is, and the rest of the world is going to just have to suck it up.
View: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtZhG2kWVLY
laurence
Veteran
- Location
- in the aeroplane over the sea
he didn't marry Sheryl Crow. he dumped her around the time she was diagnosed with cancer.
Dave Davenport
Guru
- Location
- Hampshire
Although it was exciting, I never got the 'what fantastic riding / bike handling' bit. He rode across a dry field in a straight line, I think even I'd have been able to manage that.
oooohhhhh!!!!!!
you see, there's a third way. You can be outraged by Armstrong, or you can be one of the two people in the world who believe him. Or you can shrug and say that there was some kind of unholy deal, and, at the end of it, he got the fame, the glory, the gorgeous girlfriend, the UCI got the money, and, actually, professional sport is kind of weird and it probably matters more that there is only on black rider (if that) on each TdF.
Smokin Joe
Squire
- Location
- Bare headed cyclist, Smoker
A lot of the money may disappear should he be sued, the USADA investigation highlights the fact that he committed perjury in a court case and misused Federal funds should the powers that be decide to follow those up. And to people like LA the money is only part of what they want, had he stuck to his original intention of retiring in '05 he would still have had enough to live in extreme comfort for a lifetime or three. It is people's respect and adulation that the likes of Armstrong crave, with that taken away and his exposure for what he is in the public domain he will be hurting very badly. He probably realises that there is more to come as those who remained silent for years now decide to jump on the bandwagon.
Personally, I would not be surprised to see him fall on his sword, literally.
I am a little bit gob smacked catching up on the latest posts here and reading the various websites.
Sean Yates - really, your a DS but all you did was wake up, ride your bike, then drive a car, issue a few race instructions and saw absolutely nothing? - incredible Sean, incredible.
Lance was only levelling the playing field - so thats not really cheating is it - bizarre!!
It almost feels like this guy will need to walk into the middle of the White House lawn and take a dump on the stars and stripes before some people will wake up and smell the coffee.
Sean Yates - really, your a DS but all you did was wake up, ride your bike, then drive a car, issue a few race instructions and saw absolutely nothing? - incredible Sean, incredible.
Lance was only levelling the playing field - so thats not really cheating is it - bizarre!!
It almost feels like this guy will need to walk into the middle of the White House lawn and take a dump on the stars and stripes before some people will wake up and smell the coffee.
A poor grasp of medical ethics then?
Lets take AIDS testing in the UK.
For about 5 years all pregnant women in the UK were tested for AIDS as a random sampling of the population to assess the presence of the virus in the UK population.
These tests would have not been allowed without anonymity as a basic requirement for the research
If we follow the argument that tests carried out under such circumstances are allowed to be used in evidence against the individual, then every female who was pregnant during this period needs to declare the test to their life / medical insurance company!
GrumpyGregry
Here for rides.
can't the US govt just get his confession over and done via waterboarding...?
MacB
Lover of things that come in 3's
- Location
- Farnborough, Hampshire
we're talking the US here so anything is possible, they have a long history of forgiving/overlooking all sorts from slebs, politicos, corporates, etc, etc. But if the tide happens to turn it's like a pack of hungry dogs.
On a separate note, I feel pretty annoyed with the statements made yesterday by Hincapie and Barry.
Don't sit their blathering about the work you have done for younger cyclists and to promote good values in cycling since you cleaned up after 2006 (!) - make your apologies and just go.
I notice Michael Barry has switched off comments on his site below his admission, although he has always been more than happy to receive them in the past including the many thanking him for what he has done for Canadian cycling - bit like Ben Johnson for athletics hey??
When he put his denial on his site following FL's claims I made a comment pointing out that if some one had accused me in the way he had been, I would have been far stronger in my rebuttal than he had and used everything in my power to defend my reputation and good name. For me, the very fact that he had simply trotted out the same old crap made a fairly convincing case for me that he had indeed doped.
He could have come clean at any point but instead managed to eke out a couple more seasons or so and goes into retirement before he can be brought to book.
So Michael, George and chums I dont want to hear any further comments from you - you have no credibility in talking up the good you have done, you are part of the problem not the solution. I wonder how many sleepless nights you have had over the last couple of years knowing this was coming out at some point - hopefully you had the chance to think about the generation of young talent that had their potential successes and future careers cheated from them.
You can tell your children all about it when they grow up.
Don't sit their blathering about the work you have done for younger cyclists and to promote good values in cycling since you cleaned up after 2006 (!) - make your apologies and just go.
I notice Michael Barry has switched off comments on his site below his admission, although he has always been more than happy to receive them in the past including the many thanking him for what he has done for Canadian cycling - bit like Ben Johnson for athletics hey??
When he put his denial on his site following FL's claims I made a comment pointing out that if some one had accused me in the way he had been, I would have been far stronger in my rebuttal than he had and used everything in my power to defend my reputation and good name. For me, the very fact that he had simply trotted out the same old crap made a fairly convincing case for me that he had indeed doped.
He could have come clean at any point but instead managed to eke out a couple more seasons or so and goes into retirement before he can be brought to book.
So Michael, George and chums I dont want to hear any further comments from you - you have no credibility in talking up the good you have done, you are part of the problem not the solution. I wonder how many sleepless nights you have had over the last couple of years knowing this was coming out at some point - hopefully you had the chance to think about the generation of young talent that had their potential successes and future careers cheated from them.
You can tell your children all about it when they grow up.
