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DogTired

Über Member
No they were not. The purpose of the research was to investigate whether a new test worked. It was not to screen the samples for prohibited substances. Just as in the test of a new medical diagnostic the purpose is to see if it works, not to diagnose patients. A subtle but significant difference.

Nope there is no mention of "screen the samples". You're adding an interpretation that is not in the regulations. The words are clear - the samples were being used to test for prohibited substances. There is no more to the regulations and the tests were within the rules. The samples were being used to test for prohibited substances. The words are not in the text to support your interpretation.
 
Nope there is no mention of "screen the samples". You're adding an interpretation that is not in the regulations. The words are clear - the samples were being used to test for prohibited substances. There is no more to the regulations and the tests were within the rules. The samples were being used to test for prohibited substances. The words are not in the text to support your interpretation.

Even WADA, in their riposte to the Vrijman report confirm my analysis:

The process used by the French Laboratory in conducting its research was not the process used for analysing samples for the purpose of sanctions.
 

dellzeqq

pre-talced and mighty
Location
SW2
Oh! I blame the beeb!
for my money the Beeb's News sections are totally, utterly useless. I'd rather read the Mail
 

smutchin

Cat 6 Racer
Location
The Red Enclave
Even WADA, in their riposte to the Vrijman report confirm my analysis:

The process used by the French Laboratory in conducting its research was not the process used for analysing samples for the purpose of sanctions.

Your interpretation goes much further than that statement. It's certainly open to spin but to say it confirms your analysis is stretching it a bit.

And more to the point, it's still irrelevant to the USADA's case against Armstrong.

d.
 

beastie

Guru
Location
penrith
Not this time. The Beeb have edited the report to confirm that he made the statement today, and they reference the follow up radio interview where Dowsett tries to wriggle out of it, by claiming he first called LA a legend 2 months back. DB probably came up with that story with Yates in the car together.
 

rich p

ridiculous old lush
Location
Brighton
Armstrong tested positive for EPO on 6 occasions. For a variety of reasons these positives were not able to be used to ban him at the time. None of these reasons were because the tests weren't correct in their analysis.
Hence LA tested +ve for dope. This has been used as corroborative evidence in building the USADA case but is not central to it.
 

DogTired

Über Member
Even WADA, in their riposte to the Vrijman report confirm my analysis:

The process used by the French Laboratory in conducting its research was not the process used for analysing samples for the purpose of sanctions.

Er, no it doesn't confirm your analysis which was that the tests contravened the rules (and I think earlier you mentioned human rights as well)., but the goalpost moving is welcomed.

The process was not that used for analysing samples for the purpose of sanctions - you obviously wouldn't freeze them for 5 years, wait and then test positive. But positive they are and they form part of a quite frankly vast body of evidence to prove LA doped. They are not the single reason why sanctions have been applied. Furthermore on the basis of these tests L'Equipe called LA a cheat and invited him to sue. He never did. Considering his penchant for legal action, applying pressure and bullying this is untypical behaviour.

Why?
 
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