Noodley
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Hmm not sure your mate Kimmage would agree with you there Noods.
I just dinnae see Roche at the time of his triple having anywhere near the same influence as Armstrong. I may be wrong, although that would be a first

Hmm not sure your mate Kimmage would agree with you there Noods.
If you type in "clean cyclist scott" to google, that's all you need to get Scott Mercier ;-)There was an interesting story I read about 1 relatively unknown clean cyclist who had to retire early because he refused to take drugs From the LA era but not bassons. Scott something ? Anyone know? I can't find the story now ..Bit vague I know but it was posted by someone in one of the mamoth LA threads I can't trawl through them again !
Armstrong's data when climbing were coming out as something like 'theoretical limit of human performance' plus 5%, whereas Sir Brad's were more like 'theoretical limit of human performance' minus a few % which to me sounds perfectly reasonable for a top athlete!Oh well, at least Sir Brad is clean................................................isn't he?
In another thread early last year, I posted this:I think it is a setup and that he is still innocent.
In other words I was one of the idiots who hoped and felt he was not guilty, just shows my wife is correct when she says I am hopeless at judging a persons character.
I would like to apologise slightly more sincerely than Lance did for wasting the time of others who tried to convince me in the past of his guilt and admit that at my very advanced years (56) that I certainly still get things very wrong.
Oh, the benefits of hindsight…Certainly, I've had my doubts over the past few years, but I preferred to have a bit of faith in the body of proof, or lack there of. Back then, I hadn't read much of the evidence that makes such an overwhelming case LA's admission is redundant- some I just hadn't read, some has either emerged for the first time or been brought to much greater attention. I was not, for example, aware that Armstrong's performances were out of the realms of any clean athlete, nor of the extent of his bullying of his own team, let alone his other victims like Emma O'Reilly and Betsy Andreu. I certainly wasn't aware, until relevant extracts from Tyler Hamilton's book were published, just how easy it was to dope and get away with it. Riders knew when they could take stuff without fear of being caught, and that skipping a test could be as simple as hiding under the kitchen table. Which makes you wonder how stupid Landis, Vinokourov, Rasmussen and all the others who've been caught had to be...The whole question of his guilt/innocence on doping...well, the smoking gun, the positive test, remains absent. Like Martin, I think the principle of innocent until proven guilty is one worth upholding. It's hard for me to see the continued campaigning of certain journalists against him as anything other than mudslinging. Yes, it seems ridiculous that he was clean when Pantani wasn't, Ullrich wasn't, Riis wasn't, and so many of his friends and former teammates weren't. But nor is it completely implausible. Apart from the physiological changes caused by cancer and his recovery, he quite clearly applied the same spirit that in many respects got him through the worst of his illness to his training.
He broke the rules, and knew when he was doing it that he was breaking those rules, but he didn't consider that to be cheating!By that he confirms even now he would have been happy to be a cheat for the rest of his life as long as he wasn't found out.
He broke the rules, and knew when he was doing it that he was breaking those rules, but he didn't consider that to be cheating!![]()
It's a confusing picture that he is painting, isn't it! He says that he wants to come clean, but there are things he still doesn't want to talk about. There are other things that are almost certainly true that he is probably still lying about. (The hospital conversation.)Yes, but I thought in the interview he was trying to give the impression that was then, the old Lance, not now. But no,he would never have came clean and was happy to deal with the rumours for the rest of his life.
He broke the rules, and knew when he was doing it that he was breaking those rules, but he didn't consider that to be cheating!![]()
There is certainly something very intense and cold about him. You can almost see his mind working before he speaks, as if he is calculating what the effect of his words will be.Even more odd is that he actually looked up the word "cheat".
He's a sociopath-a Robert Maxwell on two wheels.
I think Betsy Andreu said something like "it's a long process for him to come clean and he's going completely the wrong way about it". Spot on that.