The new improved Lance Armstrong discussion thread.*

[tigger]

I can't help but like this photo. A little defiance in the face of adversity...

http://www.mobli.com/media/show/id/22700756?referer=tw

 

[tigger]

"and then work our way down". Is this not reasonably clear?

Whoops!

 

[thom]

LA offered SCA $1 million at the weekend. SCA said they'd rather have $11 million.

 

[thom]

The Lance Armstrong Foundation no longer exists, at least formally speaking.
It is now officially the Livestrong Foundation.

 

[mickle]

The Lance Armstrong Foundation no longer exists, at least formally speaking.
It is now officially the Livestrong Foundation.

"Lance doesn't want to be a distraction from the foundation's cause - serving cancer patients and survivors," said McKinnon, a board member and an Austin media producer and communications strategist. "That's why he resigned from the foundation's board. In the spirit of that noble decision, the foundation has to make appropriate changes as well."

Big of him...

 

[Oldspice]

 

[Orbytal]

Very Funny

 

[ufkacbln]

Did he? How dare he not toe the party line.

The Omerta is capable of Irony!

 

[ufkacbln]

As far as I'm concerned Armstrong has been well and truly 'got'. The fallout for him personally interests me less and less. Most pro-cycling fans simply wanted him brought to justice and his wins annulled. We've won.
The battle now is to get the UCI sorted and trying to divert the discussions with anti-WADA stuff is more obfuscation from the usual suspect(s).

Which is really the ironic point.

Anyone who dares to cross the drwan line of a certain Omerta is dismissed?

Like it or not there are questions about the failure of the WADA and the USADA in their supervisory role.

Of course if you really want to hide your head in the sand then of course you have every right, but that is exactly the attitude that led to the dire situation that professional cycling has found itself in

 

[Russell Allen]

Surely we're not going to abandon this thread with only nine pages before the "magic ton" Can someone please say something controversial

Russell

 

[surfinmonk]

Interesting opinion from a letter in this weeks cycling weekly. (paraphrased)

Footballers cheat every match and usually get away with it, it is considered part of the game. Maradona's 'Hand of God' won the world cup for Argentina, The ref did not see fit to penalise and no amount of post match video evidence has had no effect on the result. Since Lance did not fail any doping tests he should not be stripped of his victories, regardless of what we now know.
(and most of the 'Heroes' who confessed "for the good of the sport" did so because they were already caught. The six month bans given to these is USADA showing double standards)

Discuss.

 

[Russell Allen]

now we're talking, over to you orbytal

Russell

 

[steviesch]

well - cyclists were cheating in every race and getting away with it - it was considered part of the game...but do we condone by watching TDF on the tele...or match of the day for that matter?....i bought a trek bike once - maybe i should have bought.....well... what?...are there any big brands untainted by the "news" - it ain't news! Get your local frame builder to knock you up something in steel...maybe some handbuilt wheels...if a million roadbikes were bought like that I am sure the knock on effect would be that the TDF would be smaller - less activity at the dopage...but a thread with a 100 pages????

 

[asterix]

Well I must also admit to colluding in LA's infamy because I bought a Trek this year. It is a Soho and I bought it almost entirely because it is belt drive, hub geared, low maintenance bicycle.

Fortunately Trek have gone some way to removing the stain from the escutcheon by cutting their links with LA as much as they can:

Trek released the following brief statement late Wednesday.
"Trek is disappointed by the findings and conclusions in the USADA report regarding Lance Armstrong. Given the determinations of the report, Trek today is terminating our longterm relationship with Lance Armstrong. Trek will continue to support the Livestrong Foundation and its efforts to combat cancer."

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/trek-breaks-ties-with-lance-armstrong

...are there any big brands untainted by the "news" - it ain't news! Get your local frame builder to knock you up something in steel...maybe some handbuilt wheels...if a million roadbikes were bought like that I am sure the knock on effect would be that the TDF would be smaller - less activity at the dopage...but a thread with a 100 pages????

As it happens, all my other bikes are steel with handbuilt wheels but they all have Shimano components (bar one that has Campag).

My other problem is that I did actually go to a stage of the TdF and deliberately took a photo of LA and Hincapie. I shall ceremonially destroy the negative (it was a long time ago). Any recommendations as to a suitable ritual to be observed when I do it would be appreciated.

On the plus side I own no books by, or about LA.

 

[asterix]

Interesting opinion from a letter in this weeks cycling weekly. (paraphrased)



Discuss.

If we permit cyclists cheats then the LA phenomenom whereby a certain rider wins the TdF every year for several years will become commonplace. I find that very tedious, just as I find football cheats tedious.