The new improved Lance Armstrong discussion thread.*

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[smutchin]

I want to see the riders I believe to be clean getting angry in their statements, doesn't mean that they cannot possibly be liars, but experience so far suggests that dirty riders are always careful in their choice of words.

On which note, great piece by Bradley McGee on the subject...
http://www.theage.com.au/sport/cycl...e-best-years-of-my-career-20121026-28aif.html

The thing that makes me slightly uneasy about it is that he's writing from the position of being involved in a team with Riis as its head and Contador as its star rider. It makes him look perhaps naive at best, disingenuous at worst - he may well be anti-doping himself, but what measures do the team have in place to prevent their riders veering from the strait and righteous path? The words ring slightly hollow.

Plus he needs to name some names.

d.

 

[Alun]

How many riders were believed to be clean at some point before proven otherwise?

All of them, except one.

 

[GrumpyGregry]

I don't buy any of the "there's the A team and the B team and the B team don't know what the A team are doing" It's a conceit. Designed by the guilty to limit damage. Ditto I don't buy the "I was only the DS how was I supposed to know" argument. We are talking about commonplace systematic institutionalised cheating by a large number of players of whom LA was the King.

It's gonna get worse before it gets better. If it doesn't, it won't.

If you doped and didn't fess up voluntarily you've no place in pro cycling.

 

[Bollo]

Fat Pat's son Andrew accused lemond of doping on his twitter feed today. Like father like son - total jokers.

I do hope Greg Lemond's going to sue. It's what daddy would do

 

[smutchin]

The cowardly weasels who are no better than Gaddafi have dropped their case against Kimmage.

Best news I've heard all week.

 

[bof]

The cowardly weasels who are no better than Gaddafi have dropped their case against Kimmage.

Best news I've heard all week.

Does PM have a golden gun too?
Agree its good news but really - the UCI may be rather useless and venal, but they don't murder people in large numbers.

 

[ufkacbln]

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If you doped and didn't fess up voluntarily you've no place in pro cycling.

I'm not even sure about that they have a place even then........ if these people cheated than they should be censured, including removal of titles and bans.

 

[ufkacbln]

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Totally OT - if you ask an Iphone the meaning of life, the reply is chocolate!

 

[GrumpyGregry]

I'm not even sure about that they have a place even then........ if these people cheated than they should be censured, including removal of titles and bans.

I agree. But I think life bans would be unimplementable. I quite like Chris Boardman's proposals.

 

[smutchin]

Does PM have a golden gun too?
Agree its good news but really - the UCI may be rather useless and venal, but they don't murder people in large numbers.

I don't expect you to find my attempts at satire funny but I thought the reference was obvious.

d.

 

[bof]

I don't expect you to find my attempts at satire funny but I thought the reference was obvious.

d.

Sorry it has gone right over my head

 

[Buddfox]

Landis is banned from likening the UCI to Colonel Gaddafi in a ludicrous court judgement. It's linked somewhere...!

 

[ColinJ]

I agree. But I think life bans would be unimplementable. I quite like Chris Boardman's proposals.

Sorry, I missed those - what did he propose?

 

[PpPete]

Sorry, I missed those - what did he propose?

http://road.cc/content/news/69536-c...ear-bans-teams-whose-riders-are-caught-doping