The Football.....

[ianrauk]

"Here's my pocket, have a p**s."

I'd love to see standing back. It has the potential to lower prices and get a better mix into grounds and the atmosphere would improve no doubt. How exactly does it work in Germany? I've been in the Westfalenstadien but only for a European game when the temporary seats were in place. Like DM I have qualms. I can still see sections becoming overcrowded, can we trust in proper crowd control from street to stand? Would people become lax overtime?

Here's my pocket, have a piss.. yup that happened and a whole lot more BESIDES.
But more often then not terracing was a very good experience.

Most of the tickets for terracing at Hamburg and Dortmund are season tickets with some pre-sold tickets. There is a zero policy in regards to bad behavior in German football stadiums. With the majority of police on duty outside the ground all looking like they are out of Robocop.

However, German football fans are treated fairly like the clubs unlike the cash cows that English clubs seem to treat the fans. You are even allowed to take a drink into the stands with you (You hire a plastic beer mug for €1.50, they usually get left behind and kids pick them up to claim the money back).

In regards to cheaper ticket prices, I very much doubt that would happen. English clubs would once again look at milking the fans rather then helping and welcoming the fans. The Hamburg terrace has room for 10,000 which can be changed to 5,000 seating for European matches. That's a whole lot of difference in income.

 

[mark st1]

Another shoot performance a great way to start the New Year. How is Cleverly a Premiership player he would look out of his depth in any top 10 Championship club. Januzaj although going to be a talent needs to cut out that diving asap. And how Lloris the sweeper stayed on the pitch is any ones guess. Get your chequebook out Moyes and sooner rather than later would be better for your future prospects.

 

[ianrauk]

Another s*** performance a great way to start the New Year. How is Cleverly a Premiership player he would look out of his depth in any top 10 Championship club. Januzaj although going to be a talent needs to cut out that diving asap. And how Lloris the sweeper stayed on the pitch is any ones guess. Get your chequebook out Moyes and sooner rather than later would be better for your future prospects.

Don't half miss Scholes don't they?

 

[deptfordmarmoset]

Another s*** performance a great way to start the New Year. How is Cleverly a Premiership player he would look out of his depth in any top 10 Championship club. Januzaj although going to be a talent needs to cut out that diving asap. And how Lloris the sweeper stayed on the pitch is any ones guess. Get your chequebook out Moyes and sooner rather than later would be better for your future prospects.

I know what you mean about Cleverley. He must be excellent on the training ground.

 

[mark st1]

Don't half miss Scholes don't they?

Meulensteen is also a big miss imo dont know how he is going to work out as a manager at Fulham but he is a good coach. We just look disjointed all over the park Rooney seemed to spend most of the game in our own half Carrick seemed to think the ball was a hot potato and as i said Cleverly well i dunno i keep thinking he will take his shirt off and have a Skiverpool or Man Shitty one on underneath or something. When i see Mata coming off 5 minutes in to the second half of the Chelsea game im slightly envious

 

[Aperitif]

In today's Guardian report of the Dutds v Spudrs game, apart from the scandalous behaviour of Howler Webb, there were two or so lines that caught my eye.
Sherwood:

"He's got ice on every part of his body so we can't tell what is wrong with him," the manager said.

Moyes:

He has missed a couple of games with his groin and may well miss some more in the games coming up.

Coldmanballs?

The truth is here

 

[bof]

In today's Guardian report of the Dutds v Spudrs game, apart from the scandalous behaviour of Howler Webb, there were two or so lines that caught my eye.

Young had released the ball already, Welbeck should have been carded for diving and Janujaz for diving in the first half too. Moyes' response not as entertaining though as Fergie's when they lost last year's fixture. From http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19774393:

"Manchester United manager Sir Alex Ferguson said the four minutes of injury time added to his team's defeat by Tottenham was an "insult". Clint Dempsey's decider helped Spurs win 3-2 to triumph at Old Trafford for the first time in 23 years. Ferguson said: "It was disappointing because the record has been fantastic.They gave us four minutes [injury time], that's an insult to the game. It denies you a proper chance to win a football match."

Are they always this silly when they lose?

 

[MarkF]

My team is in L1, apart from a 2 year spell in the PL I've been treated like dirt at all over the UK, threatened with arrest at Rotherham for wanting to buy a cheese sandwich. Most clubs sell designated seat tickets and then tell arrivals to sit "wherever", families and friends arriving after cannot sit together and the infirm cannot see anything..................because the front row is standing, bedlam follows, Walsall and Oldham being particularly stupid, the latter seemingly expecting 1500 fans when they were told 3-4k would turn up. Complain? Ask for another section to be opened? Good luck, you'll probably be ejected. Do I want to travel to Walsall with 3 friends only to end up sat next some strange and smelly 30 stoner? No.

Sooner standing returns the better.

PS. Ashley Young is a good diver, Wellbeck needs to learn from him, he got what he deserved as did Moyes for fielding 3 divers (cheaters) and defending them. How embarrassing.

 

[mark st1]

Ole Gunnar what have you done

 

[MarkF]

Keith Hill working his magic at Dale again, such a shame he chose Barnsley as his "step up" club, t'was like watching Barcelona versus John Beck's Cambridge. Leeds were played off the pitch and it could have been 3 or 4, all with the Dale fans singing "HOOOOOF"! Funny as anything.

 

[Monsieur Remings]

Well done Rangers, great result today...only 4-0 against the Everton. I'm sure Jelavic would love to come to us now. What was really touching was Harry's cryptic message regarding the effort the boys should show at the FA Cup today:

'We're going to rest some of our first team players today - 5 games in 13 days is too much for some of them...'

Or, in plain speak 'We couldn't give a rat's arse for the FA Cup, or the fans who've travelled all the way to Goodison Park, to watch an already under-strength team put on to the field of play with more key players being rested.'

Fantastic.

 

[PaulB]

R.I.P the great Eusabio. The man was regarded as an icon when I was growing up and he was as revered as Pele in this country.

 

[RedRider]

I just tried to ring me dad about Eusebio to get his memories. He saw him at Goodison in '66. Apparently the whole crowd got behind the North Korean underdogs. Great player, great game...

 

[RedRider]

Well, just spoke to me dad about Eusebio. I'd mis-remembered the above. He saw Brazil v Portugal and all the Goodison games apart from Portugal/N Korea. The atmosphere was amazing, he says. The crowd was mainly behind the Portuguese underdogs, he said and Pele got kicked to buggery. My dad was level with the Gwladys St penalty area, a privilege he says. He also saw Hungary v Bulgaria at Old trafford. reckons Hungary was the best side he saw in that World Cup. The Old Trafford atmos was like a morgue tho. Some things never change.

 

[Supersuperleeds]

That slightly made up for yesterdays awful display