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StuAff

Silencing his legs regularly
Location
Portsmouth
Were Mancini working for Abramovich he'd be toast by now. But, then again, he might have been toast before City won the League.

Abramovich is after the One Big Thing. He thinks that somewhere out there is a manager who will fix everything. He had that with Mourinho and the thinks he can have it again with the man one Chelsea fan calls Peppy O'Guardioli. There is, however, a small catch, which is that Abramovich thinks he can pick a better side than any manager, and that includes Mourinho, and that he, Abramovich, has second sight when it comes to transfers despite fifty million reasons for him to think otherwise.

Benitez was looking for a job and Guardiola is not. If Guardiola returns to management he can pick and choose - the top Italian or German clubs might sign him, or, more pertinently, Manchester City, (who take a longer term view), might offer him The Contract Of All Contracts. Guardiola is in the perfect position to say to Chelsea 'fine, pay me zillions, and, by the way, Torres goes'. Which leaves Benitez in post, saddled with an owner picking the team. And, given Benitez' level of (justified) pride that's going to be interesting to watch.

There is only one way out of this for Abramovich. Re-hire Mourinho and shut up.
If he goes anywhere in England, City would be the obvious choice- apart from signing up Txiki Begirstain and Ferran Soriano, they do seem to have the long term plan to build up, well, an English Barcelona...presumably Sheik Mansour will not be going for the membership (or 'choose your oligarch') model though.
 

PaulB

Legendary Member
Location
Colne
In more sinister news, a Spurs fan is fighting for his life after being stabbed by mask-wearing Nazio fans while drinking in a Rome bar last night.
 

dellzeqq

pre-talced and mighty
Location
SW2
surely there are two Benitez (whatever the plural is)? The tactician who won stuff, took Liverpool to second in the Premiership, bought Reina, Alonso and Torres and the slightly prickly prideful man who can't brook criticism and wants everything he sees on the shelf. There's the man who won the European Cup and then got Liverpool to another final and, lets not forget, took them to second place in the Premiership, and there's the man who just cannot, will not suffer any insult or even questioning. Benitez 1 may well win the Premiership this year. Benitez 2 will probably get sacked.
 

dellzeqq

pre-talced and mighty
Location
SW2
If he goes anywhere in England, City would be the obvious choice- apart from signing up Txiki Begirstain and Ferran Soriano, they do seem to have the long term plan to build up, well, an English Barcelona...presumably Sheik Mansour will not be going for the membership (or 'choose your oligarch') model though.
and sparking a wave of Manchester babies being named Txiki.
 

Andrew_P

In between here and there
Quite smug being a Palace fan at the moment, top of league, good academy system, nicely balanced attacking team and sensible new owners. Did I mention top of the league? Come a long way since Admin in such a short time.

The owners are regular posters on the CPFC forum which is not only dangerous but refreshing too, prior to that it was always a good (if not easy game) of trying to spot Simon Jordans new user name..
 

dellzeqq

pre-talced and mighty
Location
SW2
Quite smug being a Palace fan at the moment, top of league, good academy system, nicely balanced attacking team and sensible new owners. Did I mention top of the league? Come a long way since Admin in such a short time.

The owners are regular posters on the CPFC forum which is not only dangerous but refreshing too, prior to that it was always a good (if not easy game) of trying to spot Simon Jordans new user name..
how do Palace fans feel about Jordan? I'd have thought that, taken in the round, he served them well.
 

Andrew_P

In between here and there
how do Palace fans feel about Jordan? I'd have thought that, taken in the round, he served them well.
Bit too much self promotion, he done his fortune at Palace and ran out of cash. Made some duff decisions some out of his control as it was part of the mess he picked up after the Mark Goldberg fiasco (Thanks to Ron Noades) His worst two decisions were hedge fund http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/apr/30/crystal-palace-agilo-player-sales and over valuing the playing staff (effectively the only asset CPFC had at the time)

The new owners got the ground back in to the Palace balance sheet which was a clever move, and I think got a good overall deal. SJ made some classic mistakes when we were promoted some players got cracking new deals that didn't have any relegation wage reductions.
 

StuAff

Silencing his legs regularly
Location
Portsmouth
how do Palace fans feel about Jordan? I'd have thought that, taken in the round, he served them well.
I don't know much about him, but I do remember him being a studio guest on Football Focus. Rather than sitting facing the others as you or I would, or every other person I've seen on the programme does, he perched on the edge of the sofa looking over his shoulder. Sounds weird, looked weird...and rude. Didn't give me a good impression of the guy.
 

StuAff

Silencing his legs regularly
Location
Portsmouth
SJ made some classic mistakes when we were promoted some players got cracking new deals that didn't have any relegation wage reductions.
That sounds all too familiar to Pompey fans. Even the regime after the first administration managed to do that (!!).
 

ohnovino

Large Member
Location
Liverpool
In more sinister news, a Spurs fan is fighting for his life after being stabbed by mask-wearing Nazio fans while drinking in a Rome bar last night.
Exactly the same as the attack on Boro fans in 2006: same bar, same gang of thugs, same mysterious disappearance of local police just before the attack.

If a city in England had the same repeated problems as Rome then UEFA would have kicked it's clubs out of European competitions by now.
 

RedRider

Pulling through
@Inertia
Without wishing to prolong the family debate about Benitez til it outstays its welcome, you said:
He broke the British transfer record for Torres and bought a lot of players
This far from from true. Transfer fees are never crystal clear to outsiders but tops paid for Torres was £26m and that's if you factor in Luis Garcia going the other way to Atletico. Liverpool record yes but Man Utd alone had already paid £40m for Ferdinand, £35m for Veron, £32m for Rooney etc, all way before Benitez became LFC manager and leaving aside how much more those figures represent if you consider inflation in the football market across those years. Chelsea also with several players who cost more. Source
 
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