Drago
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Makes you wonder what the mild hybrid bit is doing if its a third or more less economical than a vehicle of similar weight that first hit the drawing boards in the nineties.
It’s not that polluting, Ulez free petrol engine, mild hybrid.
395 BHP, Turbo/Supercharged so I suppose it’s understandable that it’s crap on MPG.
Just awful that such an intimidating and polluting behemoth is celebrated.
Just awful that such an intimidating and polluting behemoth is celebrated.
I absolutely hate these new Defenders and the selfish, arrogant, entitled image they convey.
I am not a Defender owner, but I don't agree with your suggestion that to drive one portrays a selfish arrogant entitled image.
It's a bit like like labelling all Audi/BMW reckless,
Chipping Norton is full of them, usually driven by a 40 something trendy twat in Adidas trainers and a hoody up from London for the weekend. I absolutely hate these new Defenders and the selfish, arrogant, entitled image they convey.
I thought this was a thread dedicated to large SUV’s?
I thought some people may be interested in my experience, I won’t bother posting in future!
Far to good at the off road stuff to just stay on the tarmac.They're hideous, overpowered, overweight (two and a half tons!), and far too expensive to take off-road.
So you don't like New Defenders or the people who drive them, which is cool and completely up to you, I have no desire to try to change your mind, but in a thread about large SUVs in the Motoring section of this forum, ask yourself, are these comments really helpful?Chipping Norton is full of them, usually driven by a 40 something trendy twat in Adidas trainers and a hoody up from London for the weekend. I absolutely hate these new Defenders and the selfish, arrogant, entitled image they convey.
So you don't like New Defenders or the people who drive them, which is cool and completely up to you, I have no desire to try to change your mind, but in a thread about large SUVs in the Motoring section of this forum, ask yourself, are these comments really helpful?
Just a bit of blind optimism as this was the motoring section.It's a cycling forum; these vehicles are extremely intimidating to many cyclists as well as dangerous, and also contrary to the environmental ethos of many cyclists.
You can't expect a thread on a cycling forum to ignore these kind of issues, whether or not you agree with them.