The CycleChat Helmet Debate Thread

[ufkacbln]

Ok so being a pedestrian is "likely to result in significant injury" therefore it must be dangerous, thanks. (Maybe it's all the senior citizens tripping over). I'm just gonna stay indoors forever, bugger, but I'll probably bang my head on a cupboard door........

So cupboard doors are dangerous?

Would wearing a helmet help?

 

[ufkacbln]

Ok so being a pedestrian is "likely to result in significant injury" therefore it must be dangerous, thanks. (Maybe it's all the senior citizens tripping over). I'm just gonna stay indoors forever, bugger, but I'll probably bang my head on a cupboard door........

The reality is that more head injury admission and deaths would be prevented by pedestrian than cycle helmets.

Yet no-one seems to care about pedestrian deaths and injuries.

 

[Tin Pot]

Ok so being a pedestrian is "likely to result in significant injury" therefore it must be dangerous, thanks. (Maybe it's all the senior citizens tripping over). I'm just gonna stay indoors forever, bugger, but I'll probably bang my head on a cupboard door........

By your logic, yes.

Is it now finally time to reassess your logic?

So, if being at home isnt dangerous, maybe being a pedestrian isn't dangerous.

And if being a pedestrian isn't dangerous, maybe being a cyclist...EUREKA!

 

[Justinslow]

By your logic, yes.

Is it now finally time to reassess your logic?

So, if being at home isnt dangerous, maybe being a pedestrian isn't dangerous.

And if being a pedestrian isn't dangerous, maybe being a cyclist...EUREKA!

If's and but's and maybe's.....

 

[martint235]

If's and but's and maybe's.....

But surely that's the whole foundation of the belief that the current helmet design may actually be helpful?

 

[MontyVeda]

Look I know where this is going - "well why don't you where a helmet whilst walking to the shops" blah blah.....
Based on personal experience I've never crashed whilst walking to the shops or drinking beer or climbing a ladder or driving to the shops or being a passenger in a car or playing football, but I have crashed several cycles and a couple of motorcycles.

Do you see the inconsistency in your way of thinking?





Thought not.

 

[totallyfixed]

I would say he should stay off 2 wheels, there appears to be a certain lack of skill.

 

[snorri]

Can I suggest certain aspects of cycling are dangerous?

Absolutely, cycling recklessly is the most obvious.

 

[ufkacbln]

If's and but's and maybe's.....

A bit like making claims that cycling is dangerous?

Like the Melons

If you accept this standard for dismiss that being a pedestrian is dangerous, then it is hypocritical to accept the same standard to "prove" that cycling is dangerous

 

[Justinslow]

Absolutely, cycling recklessly is the most obvious.

So everyone who's been hit by a vehicle were riding recklessly?

 

[Justinslow]

I would say he should stay off 2 wheels, there appears to be a certain lack of skill.

Does that apply to well known crasher Chris Froome aswell?

 

[Justinslow]

Do you see the inconsistency in your way of thinking?





Though not.

No, because it's a ridiculous comparison.

 

[mjr]

Does that apply to well known crasher Chris Froome aswell?

While I doubt TF's claim, that's a bad example because I think ol' "Crash" Froome has said many of his most famous crashes have been self-inflicted: "Froome later admitted he was inexperienced and kept crashing because he was using his back brake because he worried about going over the handlebars (rather than front brake which gives better control) Froome also displayed a lack of tactical awareness often riding too much on the front of the bunch"

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X24D4qDYMn4

 

[totallyfixed]

Does that apply to well known crasher Chris Froome aswell?

Put it this way, I wouldn't ride with him, anyone who spends the amount of time he does looking down is a danger both to himself and those around him.

 

[totallyfixed]

Correct, a different matter where a vehicle is involved.