The CycleChat Helmet Debate Thread

[ufkacbln]

If I were a betting man, as opposed to an occasional backer of long odds nags, I would say neither of those for sure but we can expect him to stick his head back round the door some time

Yep - He's back

You are free to argue with anyone about anything...................again.

Bet there won't be any further discussion on the claims for the Mojito though

 

[Justinslow]

@Cunobelin, I think you've got you're wires crossed, you too @User. But hey, make stuff up to suit yourselves, don't mind me.

surely there cannot possibly be anybody on here who previously WAS a helmet wearer who has read all the 'anti' comments and has thought to himself 'do you know what, I don't think I'll wear one any more.

Are you a betting man?

@MontyVeda said -
That member hasn't been seen since making that claim... presumably they're perusing the entire thread or busy eating their words. Who knows?

If I were a betting man, as opposed to an occasional backer of long odds nags, I would say neither of those for sure but we can expect him to stick his head back round the door some time

 

[Justinslow]

Bet there won't be any further discussion on the claims for the Mojito though

"At 220g, the Mojito is no heavy hitter. Thank's to it's light In-moulding construction combined with an expanded polystyrene shell, the Mojito performs excellently in crash situations, helping to prevent injuries."

It's still on Rutlands website, it must be true...........

 

[Justinslow]

Or how about this one from "bikes24.co.uk"
http://www.bikes24.co.uk/kask-mojito-black-white-helmet.html
The MIT Technology, applied to all KASK cycling helmets, guarantees a higher safety and a complete protection thanks to the polycarbonate layer that covers the shell on the top, on the base ring and on the back.

 

[newfhouse]

Or how about this one from "bikes24.co.uk"
The MIT Technology, applied to all KASK cycling helmets, guarantees a higher safety and a complete protection thanks to the polycarbonate layer that covers the shell on the top, on the base ring and on the back.

Guaranteed safety and complete protection thanks to a polycarbonate layer, eh? Utter bollocks and you know it.

 

[Justinslow]

Guaranteed safety and complete protection thanks to a polycarbonate layer, eh? Utter bollocks and you know it.

Well yes I know, surprising they are "allowed" to say it though.....
"Sigma sport"
"The MIT technology, used on all Kask helmets, provides complete protection using inmoulding innovation construction, which attaches the inner polystyrene shell to the polycarbonate outer one. This outer shell is used on the top, base and rear of the helmet, providing strength and durability. Using this construction technique results in a high level of shock absorption."

 

[Justinslow]

Tell you what, rather than just regurgitating any nonsense you manage to Google, why don't you email them and ask how this complete protection translates into financial guarantees for your loved ones should it fail.

I'm not fool enough to believe their claims obviously, others may however. Why don't you?

 

[ufkacbln]

Or how about this one from "bikes24.co.uk"
http://www.bikes24.co.uk/kask-mojito-black-white-helmet.html
The MIT Technology, applied to all KASK cycling helmets, guarantees a higher safety and a complete protection thanks to the polycarbonate layer that covers the shell on the top, on the base ring and on the back.

Another one with unrealistic and misleading claims then?

Surely no-one really believes the claim that any helmet offers complete protection

However as pointed out there will be those who are ill informed about helmets and their limitations who will believe because it is what they want to hear

The same sort of people who think that Lynx will guarantee they "pull a bird down the pub tonight"

Fortunately the consequences of believing the claims for Lynx have far less real life impact than expecting a Helmet to live up to the absurd ckaims

 

[ufkacbln]

"At 220g, the Mojito is no heavy hitter. Thank's to it's light In-moulding construction combined with an expanded polystyrene shell, the Mojito performs excellently in crash situations, helping to prevent injuries."

It's still on Rutlands website, it must be true...........

Dealt with earlier.....

 

[Justinslow]

You may not be fool enough to believe it but you appear happy enough to promulgate these fraudulent claims. Why would that be?

Because it's worthy of note in a "helmet" thread.

 

[Justinslow]

No it isn't, you just like getting in anything that you think might support your view.

Well that's your opinion and you are entitled to it.
If a helmet vendor is making "excessive" claims regarding a product then it is fair game for this thread despite what I may or may not choose to do.
If I've learned anything from this thread then it's the "limited" help that a helmet will provide.

 

[Profpointy]

No it isn't, you just like getting in anything that you think might support your view.

umm, Justin's posting up some clearly excessive helmet claims, I took it in a mocking kind of way as many others on the sceptic side of things have done .

Blameing the messenger aren't we?

 

[Justinslow]

might support his view that helmets must be useful

I do hold the view that helmets can be useful, that is true.
Most posters on this thread also agree with that statement.
I'm also surprised that sellers can make wildly extravagant claims regarding their helmets if those claims are not accurate, and I'm certainly not saying that they are accurate, it's about awareness.
I'm not hiding behind anything.

 

[martint235]

I do hold the view that helmets can be useful, that is true.
Most posters on this thread also agree with that statement.
I'm also surprised that sellers can make wildly extravagant claims regarding their helmets if those claims are not accurate, and I'm certainly not saying that they are accurate, it's about awareness.
I'm not hiding behind anything.

Useful for what though? Are they useful in a cycling accident? Have they been tested.......oh wait. I see.

 

[theclaud]

Useful for what though?

An impromptu shopping basket? A mounting surface for a camera? Keeping the rain off a bit?