The point was to anwser the question that RichP asked......
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The point was to anwser the question that RichP asked......
Eh, WTF are you on about? What question did I ask?
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Is there a wider point than squabbling with rich p?
You must have started off trying to make one, and I can't work out what it was.
The best I can come up with is that you thought everyone else was trying to excuse all other dopers by focussing on Armstrong, and that has been disproved. Nobody is excusing dopers. Simpson included.
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Did you two not agree to ignore one another last night?
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[QUOTE 3177526, member: 30090"][Adrian, post: 3177521, member: 1252"]Ask the person holding that gun to your head if they might consider letting you off reading it?[/QUOTE]
That's not the point and you know it.[/QUOTE]
It really is, you said last night you weren't replying, but here you are. Leave us to our debating!
That's not the point and you know it.[/QUOTE]
It really is, you said last night you weren't replying, but here you are. Leave us to our debating!
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Some former Tour winners think Armstrong should have his Tour titles given back:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/former-tour-de-france-winners-say-give-armstrong-his-victories
I'm glad some, including Froomedog, Wiggins and Cuddles were clear that he should not.
Stephen Roche (a known EPO user, who is now a "cycling politician") reckons that Armstrong should stay on that list: 1987 Tour de France winner Stephen Roche added. "In the 100 year history of the race you can't not have a winner for seven years. Doping has been part of sport, not only for cycling, for decades."
Well gee, thanks you twat. Nobbers like him need to get the f*ck out of cycling. And stop worrying about whether cyclists look smart and zip their tops up.
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/former-tour-de-france-winners-say-give-armstrong-his-victories
I'm glad some, including Froomedog, Wiggins and Cuddles were clear that he should not.
Stephen Roche (a known EPO user, who is now a "cycling politician") reckons that Armstrong should stay on that list: 1987 Tour de France winner Stephen Roche added. "In the 100 year history of the race you can't not have a winner for seven years. Doping has been part of sport, not only for cycling, for decades."
Well gee, thanks you twat. Nobbers like him need to get the f*ck out of cycling. And stop worrying about whether cyclists look smart and zip their tops up.
Rehabilitation has been accepted for a number of professionals over the years.
The question is whether a few vitriolic individuals will outweigh a powerful organised campaign.
There are professional cyclists who for whatever reason are against the removal of titles, perhaps because of a fear for their own?
Then there is the Esquire article, that reaches a wider non-cycling audience
The original unpopular question remains....
Is there a chance the Armstrong may become rehabilitated?
The question is whether a few vitriolic individuals will outweigh a powerful organised campaign.
There are professional cyclists who for whatever reason are against the removal of titles, perhaps because of a fear for their own?
Then there is the Esquire article, that reaches a wider non-cycling audience
The original unpopular question remains....
Is there a chance the Armstrong may become rehabilitated?
Well, the blindingly obvious answer is that, of course, there's a chance. Perhaps you should rephrase the question.
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From what you've seen and read about him, what do you think?
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Roche sees himself as a "cycling politician" and still has influence, all the rest who passed comment (as far as I know) in favour of him being re-instated have gone out to grass. I'm not surprised, but the likes of Roche should have no place in cycling.
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Believed you the first time Rich
Intelligent debate is not dead then?
